nas drive movie server

[Andrewjvt]

Does anybody here use a movie server nas? Ripping all your blurays onto hard drive?

If there is anybody - can you give me any pros or cons or how you find it.

Thinking of ripping all my movies onto hd instead.

This is in the future after all my many other wants.

 

[bigboss]

I have invested in a QNAP TS-453A with 4 X 6TB WD Red hard drives for this very reason. Check AnyDVD HD software for ripping, or MakeMKV. You can install Kodi via QNAP apps to playback movies directly via HDMI (I haven't got to that yet).

 

[luckylion100]

I have invested in a QNAP TS-453A with 4 X 6TB WD Red hard drives for this very reason. Check AnyDVD HD software for ripping, or MakeMKV. You can install Kodi via QNAP apps to playback movies directly via HDMI (I haven't got to that yet).

Hi BigBoss,

Are you an experienced NAS user? I've moved from Synology which was basic and a doddle to Qnap and finding it a struggle, a rather big learning curve...

 

[Andrewjvt]

I have invested in a QNAP TS-453A with 4 X 6TB WD Red hard drives for this very reason. Check AnyDVD HD software for ripping, or MakeMKV. You can install Kodi via QNAP apps to playback movies directly via HDMI (I haven't got to that yet).

Ive also been looking at qnap
The model i was reading about is the TVS-x71 that can do 4k also.

Not sure if your one can as still reading up.

Do you know how much the individual ssd or hd cost?

 

[luckylion100]

Your proposed model of NAS and (kit in general) is of a much higher level than mine but my far cheaper (2 bay) Qnap also does 4K. I'm only using mine for music and not movies though. You may be able to find the abilities you require for much cheaper, although that model looks fast. There are so many combinations of NAS and for me even though this is my 2nd NAS I'm still finding it a bit of a minefield.

I've upgrade RAM to 8GB and the cost of a 4TB Red HD for example is between £130-50 a unit approx. Cost soon adds up with multiple hds and the prices soar depending on capacity,...

 

[Andrewjvt]

Your proposed model of NAS and (kit in general) is of a much higher level than mine but my far cheaper (2 bay) Qnap also does 4K. I'm only using mine for music and not movies though. You may be able to find the abilities you require for much cheaper, although that model looks fast. There are so many combinations of NAS and for me even though this is my 2nd NAS I'm still finding it a bit of a minefield.

I've upgrade RAM to 8GB and the cost of a 4TB Red HD for example is between £130-50 a unit approx. Cost soon adds up with multiple hds and the prices soar depending on capacity,...

Thats helpful thanks.
If only the qnap has a digital out coaxial or optical.

I dont want to stream my music.

 

[Diamond Joe]

I only use my QNAP (TS-212?) for Sonos duties, but I think it's causing dropout problems, has been for the past few months. I'm so annoyed with it that I can't be bothered to do any more fault finding on it, I barely use my Sonos now *cray2*

 

[abacus]

This site may help

http://mymediaexperience.com/nas-storage-guide/

Bill

 

[luckylion100]

This site may help

http://mymediaexperience.com/nas-storage-guide/

Bill

Will definitely help me, going round in circles here . Been trying to get over 2TB of music transfered from a WD Red in my Synology onto the Qnap. Different animals altogether. Ta ;-)

 

[bigboss]

I only use my QNAP (TS-212?) for Sonos duties, but I think it's causing dropout problems, has been for the past few months. I'm so annoyed with it that I can't be bothered to do any more fault finding on it, I barely use my Sonos now *cray2*

It shouldn't, if you've connected via Ethernet.

 

[bigboss]

Your proposed model of NAS and (kit in general) is of a much higher level than mine but my far cheaper (2 bay) Qnap also does 4K. I'm only using mine for music and not movies though. You may be able to find the abilities you require for much cheaper, although that model looks fast. There are so many combinations of NAS and for me even though this is my 2nd NAS I'm still finding it a bit of a minefield.

I've upgrade RAM to 8GB and the cost of a 4TB Red HD for example is between £130-50 a unit approx. Cost soon adds up with multiple hds and the prices soar depending on capacity,...

Thats helpful thanks.
If only the qnap has a digital out coaxial or optical.

I dont want to stream my music.

Does any NAS have it?

 

[Andrewjvt]

Your proposed model of NAS and (kit in general) is of a much higher level than mine but my far cheaper (2 bay) Qnap also does 4K. I'm only using mine for music and not movies though. You may be able to find the abilities you require for much cheaper, although that model looks fast. There are so many combinations of NAS and for me even though this is my 2nd NAS I'm still finding it a bit of a minefield.

I've upgrade RAM to 8GB and the cost of a 4TB Red HD for example is between £130-50 a unit approx. Cost soon adds up with multiple hds and the prices soar depending on capacity,...

Thats helpful thanks.
If only the qnap has a digital out coaxial or optical.

I dont want to stream my music.

Does any NAS have it?

As they can have the hdmi out for av then i presume that somewhere there is an digital out model.somewhere.

Is is basicaly a innous or naim uniti core model in disguise.

This is what im looking into

The better power supply is also a concern for music.

 

[bigboss]

Your proposed model of NAS and (kit in general) is of a much higher level than mine but my far cheaper (2 bay) Qnap also does 4K. I'm only using mine for music and not movies though. You may be able to find the abilities you require for much cheaper, although that model looks fast. There are so many combinations of NAS and for me even though this is my 2nd NAS I'm still finding it a bit of a minefield.

I've upgrade RAM to 8GB and the cost of a 4TB Red HD for example is between £130-50 a unit approx. Cost soon adds up with multiple hds and the prices soar depending on capacity,...

Thats helpful thanks.
If only the qnap has a digital out coaxial or optical.

I dont want to stream my music.

Does any NAS have it?

As they can have the hdmi out for av then i presume that somewhere there is an digital out model.somewhere.

Is is basicaly a innous or naim uniti core model in disguise.

This is what im looking into

The better power supply is also a concern for music.

It's not a NAS you're looking for then. Look at something like Innuos Zen+.

 

[Andrewjvt]

Your proposed model of NAS and (kit in general) is of a much higher level than mine but my far cheaper (2 bay) Qnap also does 4K. I'm only using mine for music and not movies though. You may be able to find the abilities you require for much cheaper, although that model looks fast. There are so many combinations of NAS and for me even though this is my 2nd NAS I'm still finding it a bit of a minefield.

I've upgrade RAM to 8GB and the cost of a 4TB Red HD for example is between £130-50 a unit approx. Cost soon adds up with multiple hds and the prices soar depending on capacity,...

Thats helpful thanks.
If only the qnap has a digital out coaxial or optical.

I dont want to stream my music.

Does any NAS have it?

As they can have the hdmi out for av then i presume that somewhere there is an digital out model.somewhere.

Is is basicaly a innous or naim uniti core model in disguise.

This is what im looking into

The better power supply is also a concern for music.

It's not a NAS you're looking for then. Look at something like Innuos Zen+.

The way i see it is they are almost the same thing. Storage for files(music/movies) that can stream using wifi/wired or sent to reciever with hdmi (qnap) or innous sent to amp via usb.

The innous products are very good but also very expensive.

This is what im researching and getting a feel for

 

[bigboss]

No they're not the same. One is a NAS and the other is a media server with storage. Innuos does the ripping automatically which QNAP doesn't. I see what you mean but they're different products.

If you contact Ideal AV, there is one person who can custom build a media server for less than half price of the Innuos.

 

[Andrewjvt]

No they're not the same. One is a NAS and the other is a media server with storage. Innuos does the ripping automatically which QNAP doesn't. I see what you mean but they're different products.

If you contact Ideal AV, there is one person who can custom build a media server for less than half price of the Innuos.

Apart from ripper
To.me the same thing

Ill check out that shop thanks

Innous is expensive

 

[Benedict_Arnold]

Here is my build:

Silverston Technology Grandia HTPC Case - Silverstone cases are the dog's whatsits by the way, I wouldn't use any other brand

Intel i5-3570 quad-core 3.4 GHz CPU

Asus P8B75-m/CSM motherboard

16 gigabyes of DDR3 RAM

EVGA GeForce GTX950 2 GB gaming graphics card - I think you need at least a 950 series to get 7.1 playback

Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD for software

Mediasonic ProRAID 4-bay RAID10 enclosure with 4 x 3 terabyte "spinning rust" hard disks (WD Caviar greens I think), giving 6 terabytes of RAID10 storage

OS is Windows 10.

All of this plays back in 4K via an Audioquest Chocolate (yes an expensive cable, get used to it) HDMI cable to a Marantz SR-7010 receiver to a Samsung 6-series 60 inch 4K TV. My 19 ft x 12 ft home theater (sic) room is set up for 7.2.4 surround sound using Yamaha's excellent value for money "Natural Sound" range of in-wall and in-ceiling speakers, 50 W RMS, 150 W peak each one. I'm using cheap Polk 10-inch subs at the moment, but expect to upgrade these to 12 or 15 inch units in the new year. I have an extra pair of speakers that the builders put in left in the ceiling half-way down the room but I can't be ahem'd to take them out and fix the holes left in the ceiling, so I have the capability for 7.2.six, and the room is wired for up to four subs. Overkill? Yup. Future proofed? Unless "in floor" surround sound is the next latest and greatest, you bet!. A 4K PJ and screen are on the list, right after I convince the wife to sell her kids for medical experimentation.

I use AnyDVD-HD and MakeMKV to rip all my DVDs and BDs to MKV files. You can probably get by with just MakeMKV for most discs, however, and AnyDVD-HD seriously slows down the ripping time. Using MakeMKV you also have the option to "back up" your discs meaning they'll play back like discs in a player, but I just rip the main movie files and leave out all the "special features" and other padding to save on hard disc space. I actually do most of my ripping on my home office i7 hex-core PC because it's faster, then transfer the files over our home wired network.

Playback is handled via Cyberlink PowerDVD version 15, although I think version 16 is the latest.

So long as you select the right audio files in MakeMKV you can get up to 7.1 playback, which is enough for all DVDs and all non Atmos BDs.

A DVD takes up between 3 and 3.5 gigabytes. A Blu-Ray around 30 gigabytes. I am told, though have no experieince, that a UHD BD will take up around 60. On my 6 terabyes I have ripped 300+ DVDs and 100+ BDs and have enought room for about 20 more BDs. When I hit that buffer I shall add another RAID10 unit, same enclosure but with the latest "spinning rust" models and if prices come down, using 4 or 6 terabyte drives to give me 8 or 12 terabytes of storage. One more unit should see me through to the eating only soup and pre-chewed food, soiling own Depends, stage in life.

Since I mainly used the HTPC for ripping the old collection of non-Atmos DVDs and BDs, enabling five crates of DVDs, BDs and CDs to be put in the attic out of the way, I wasn't concerned about Atmos.

And I did all this myself, including re-wiring the speakers through the walls and ceiling with 12-gauge speaker cable.

 

[Andrewjvt]

Here is my build:

Silverston Technology Grandia HTPC Case - Silverstone cases are the dog's whatsits by the way, I wouldn't use any other brand

Intel i5-3570 quad-core 3.4 GHz CPU

Asus P8B75-m/CSM motherboard

16 gigabyes of DDR3 RAM

EVGA GeForce GTX950 2 GB gaming graphics card - I think you need at least a 950 series to get 7.1 playback

Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD for software

Mediasonic ProRAID 4-bay RAID10 enclosure with 4 x 3 terabyte "spinning rust" hard disks (WD Caviar greens I think), giving 6 terabytes of RAID10 storage

OS is Windows 10.

All of this plays back in 4K via an Audioquest Chocolate (yes an expensive cable, get used to it) HDMI cable to a Marantz SR-7010 receiver to a Samsung 6-series 60 inch 4K TV.  My 19 ft x 12 ft home theater (sic) room is set up for 7.2.4 surround sound using Yamaha's excellent value for money "Natural Sound" range of in-wall and in-ceiling speakers, 50 W RMS, 150 W peak each one.  I'm using cheap Polk 10-inch subs at the moment, but expect to upgrade these to 12 or 15 inch units in the new year.  I have an extra pair of speakers that the builders put in left in the ceiling half-way down the room but I can't be ahem'd to take them out and fix the holes left in the ceiling, so I have the capability for 7.2.six, and the room is wired for up to four subs.  Overkill?  Yup.  Future proofed?  Unless "in floor" surround sound is the next latest and greatest, you bet!.  A 4K PJ and screen are on the list, right after I convince the wife to sell her kids for medical experimentation.

I use AnyDVD-HD and MakeMKV to rip all my DVDs and BDs to MKV files.  You can probably get by with just MakeMKV for most discs, however, and AnyDVD-HD seriously slows down the ripping time.  Using MakeMKV you also have the option to "back up" your discs meaning they'll play back like discs in a player, but I just rip the main movie files and leave out all the "special features" and other padding to save on hard disc space.  I actually do most of my ripping on my home office i7 hex-core PC because it's faster, then transfer the files over our home wired network.

Playback is handled via Cyberlink PowerDVD version 15, although I think version 16 is the latest.

So long as you select the right audio files in MakeMKV you can get up to 7.1 playback, which is enough for all DVDs and all non Atmos BDs.

A DVD takes up between 3 and 3.5 gigabytes.  A Blu-Ray around 30 gigabytes.  I am told, though have no experieince, that a UHD BD will take up around 60.  On my 6 terabyes I have ripped 300+ DVDs and 100+ BDs and have enought room for about 20 more BDs. When I hit that buffer I shall add another RAID10 unit, same enclosure but with the latest "spinning rust" models and if prices come down, using 4 or 6 terabyte drives to give me 8 or 12 terabytes of storage.  One more unit should see me through to the eating only soup and pre-chewed food, soiling own Depends, stage in life.

Since I mainly used the HTPC for ripping the old collection of non-Atmos DVDs and BDs, enabling five crates of DVDs, BDs and CDs to be put in the attic out of the way, I wasn't concerned about Atmos.

And I did all this myself, including re-wiring the speakers through the walls and ceiling with 12-gauge speaker cable.

Very impressive

Hiw do you find quality of play back compared to.normal bluray player?

 

[Benedict_Arnold]

Can't tell the difference in video wise. I suspect I have a few bad rips audio wise, especially with the loud bits in action movies, The Martian blast off scenes for example, where the sound gets clipped. Since the brats buggered up the disc, re ripping isn't an option at the moment. Others, like Apollo 13, haven't had this problem.

I've also found a few BDs that play fine but won't rip cleanly, e.g. quite a few of the GoT discs. Blu Rays are a lot more susceptible than DVDs.