MQA CDs anyone?
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Romulus
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Gray said:
Quality CD's, I like the idea (I play music via CDs & Cd ripping) but I would wait a while hoping that the whole process will get cheaper (hopefully) in the future.
daveh75
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Gray said:
No thanks. Hopefully they'll die out just as quick as all the other hi-res formats, especially with the special MQA kit you need for playback. Who needs it? For me SACD offered something tangible but that failed to make an impact. This is just another way of trying to part us from our cash by purchasing the same albums again. I'll be sticking with my CDs, SACDs and LPs... The most important factor for me is the master being used, not the format,
davidf
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Maybe it’s time for SACD to make a comeback? At the time, and along with DVD-Audio, a push was made about the multi-channel benefits - surely that is more relevant then ever now? Particularly with 5.1 Bluray audio discs being available.DougK said:
nopiano
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I agree with both of you. MQA might have been handy a decade ago on dialup internet. Now it’s just Bob Stuart’s pension fund, he hopes.DougK said:
Al ears
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nopiano said:
+1
It may still have a place for the streamers amongst us but that's about it in my opinion.
What's the point in hi-res formats when everything the music industry makes sounds terrible on revealing kit?
Blacksabbath25
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I wish SACDs would make a comeback but can’t see that happening it basically came out at the wrong time and to late and now we get music sound formats codes that most people do not understand and basically blinding and confusing people with science .davidf said:
And making new sound formats that involves you buying new kit or paying though the nose for is not really helping a new format it’s killing it before it’s got a chance to be anything but we have seen this before with other formats in the past and the same will happen with the 4K format I am afraid because £25 for a film is expensive and you have to really like the film before paying £25 and some of the blu-rays are just as good quality .
Anyway back to music formats I would of thought it would of been better to get things right at the start of a album when it’s first been recorded right though the hole chain to the gear you play it on and prices that everyone can afford that would make good sense I think .
Most of SACD is upsampled 16/44 and in some case also remastered with added loudness to simulate higher resolution. Louder always sounds better.
If we want better sounding music, we need the industry to do better at recording, producing, mixing, mastering, etc. The packaging after all the damage is done is irrelevant. Independant artists who do their own work throughout the process often sound better than what multi-million dollar studios and hot shot producers end up making.
If we want better sounding music, we need the industry to do better at recording, producing, mixing, mastering, etc. The packaging after all the damage is done is irrelevant. Independant artists who do their own work throughout the process often sound better than what multi-million dollar studios and hot shot producers end up making.
Blacksabbath25
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Some of the big recording artists are not bothering to make a physical album anymore as it’s just to costly to make one and it’s cheaper for them to make the album and go straight to download .
Ozzy Osborne was asked if he was going to make a new solo album and he turned round and said no way it’s just to expensive to make one theses days and he has making albums for 50 years and a lot of new bands or singers are finding out that they can make more money through YouTube theses days .
I totally Agee with you it should start at the recording studio as that’s where quality recording should start but doubt if a lot of modern music artists are not bothering and more interested in making money over anything else .
Ozzy Osborne was asked if he was going to make a new solo album and he turned round and said no way it’s just to expensive to make one theses days and he has making albums for 50 years and a lot of new bands or singers are finding out that they can make more money through YouTube theses days .
I totally Agee with you it should start at the recording studio as that’s where quality recording should start but doubt if a lot of modern music artists are not bothering and more interested in making money over anything else .
Blacksabbath25 said:
He has more money than oil sheiks, it's a marketing stunt. He's following the trend because everyone now hates the music industry and going 'independant' is what the cool kids do. The album will sound equally **** as if it was made in a high end recording studio, and it's probably still going to get distributed everywhere on every format anyway. How much will the promotion spend on advertising?
BTW - Why would anyone buy this on SACD?
Blacksabbath25
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Not keen on foo fighters but i would all of the black sabbath albums and Ozzys solo albums and most of my music collection but its just to much money to do that .Vladimir said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
Unless it was recorded originally with 2.8224 MHz sampling rate, it's the identical thing you have on regular CD.
I think of it as memorabilia or merch for the fans. Cinephiles also buy different formats of their favorite films, even if they are recordings from the 1940's.
Al ears
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Al ears
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Vladimir said:
Can I just say that I question the evidence for that first sentence.
Perhaps SACD discs of some older material might have been a better quote.
Al ears said:
Are you saying that Dire Straits – Communiqué was recorded, produced and mastered at 2.8224 MHz?
I'm too lazy to look up 'evidence' in videos and forums where people proved the 16/44 and the DSD included in the same SACD are identical. Logic will suffice.
Al ears
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Vladimir said:
And a lot of that was derived from analogue tapes so not sure where you get the upsampled CD bit from.
Al ears said:
I was being generous with the 16/44 digital masters. Tape is archeology territory, not high resolution audio.
Al ears
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Vladimir said:
And a lot of that was derived from analogue tapes so not sure where you get the upsampled CD bit from.
Oh, and there are still people recording new material directly to DSD and issuing SACD discs.
Al ears said:
That would be actually real high resolution. Mark Waldrep's AIX records comes to mind.
He's known for criticising old catalogue high-res audio as a scam and that the real benefits of DSD can only come to fruition with making the music in hi-res to begin with. I've posted his interviews here.
There was a time when magnetic tape was high resolution, or shellac, or vinyl. Time marches on.
The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. Second best time is today. - old Chinese proverb
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