How to get rid of vocal sibliance

[BenLaw]

Ben.

The phrase is commonly used to refer to someone who likes to 'stir things up', a 'sh*t stirrer' if you prefer.

You need to stop relying on the internet and get out more.

Very mature, reasoned and humorous all in one. I would have thought it was implicit that I meant I've never come across that phrase before (despite getting out at least once a day, sometimes twice) and therefore looked to see if there was any common usage referred to on the internet that I'd missed in normal life. The fact that there isn't suggests you're probably wrong to say it is 'commonly used'. This is supported by the fact that, as you've already observed, no-one else seemed to get your reference. IME a failure to get across one's intended meaning, as in this case, is almost always the fault of the communicator and not the audience.

There's plenty of humour here but if you don't get it and humour is important to you, you may as well go elsewhere.

 

[davedotco]

Ben.

The phrase is commonly used to refer to someone who likes to 'stir things up', a 'sh*t stirrer' if you prefer.

You need to stop relying on the internet and get out more.

Very mature, reasoned and humorous all in one. I would have thought it was implicit that I meant I've never come across that phrase before (despite getting out at least once a day, sometimes twice) and therefore looked to see if there was any common usage referred to on the internet that I'd missed in normal life. The fact that there isn't suggests you're probably wrong to say it is 'commonly used'. This is supported by the fact that, as you've already observed, no-one else seemed to get your reference. IME a failure to get across one's intended meaning, as in this case, is almost always the fault of the communicator and not the audience.

There's plenty of humour here but if you don't get it and humour is important to you, you may as well go elsewhere.

A gentle bit of leg pulling and you respond with this.

 

[CnoEvil]

But then there is no discernable sense of humour on this forum so I doubt it would make much difference.

An Active sense of humour is far funnier, as it's more accurate, properly thought out, and works in any room and with all people. Anyone who doesn't understand the joke knows nothing about laughter, or how to properly crossover into the world of the knowledgeable jester. :shifty:

 

[davedotco]

But then there is no discernable sense of humour on this forum so I doubt it would make much difference.

An Active sense of humour is far funnier, as it's more accurate, properly designed and works in any room and with all people. Anyone who doesn't understand the joke knows nothing about laughter, or how to properly crossover into the world of the knowledgeable jester. :shifty:

Quite right Cno, passive humour is unsatisfying, lacking in precision and gets you into trouble when people fail to see the intended humour.

Definitely going to check out the active route from here on, "Knock, knock..........."

 

[BenLaw]

Ben.

The phrase is commonly used to refer to someone who likes to 'stir things up', a 'sh*t stirrer' if you prefer.

You need to stop relying on the internet and get out more.

Very mature, reasoned and humorous all in one. I would have thought it was implicit that I meant I've never come across that phrase before (despite getting out at least once a day, sometimes twice) and therefore looked to see if there was any common usage referred to on the internet that I'd missed in normal life. The fact that there isn't suggests you're probably wrong to say it is 'commonly used'. This is supported by the fact that, as you've already observed, no-one else seemed to get your reference. IME a failure to get across one's intended meaning, as in this case, is almost always the fault of the communicator and not the audience.

There's plenty of humour here but if you don't get it and humour is important to you, you may as well go elsewhere.

A gentle bit of leg pulling and you respond with this.

The phrase 'get out more' is rude, not leg pulling. I tried not to respond by being rude back, but I don't like people being rude to me, understandably. I don't believe you think that phrase is leg pulling, but if you do you need to have a think about your manners and the way your express yourself.

 

[chebby]

The phrase 'get out more' is rude, not leg pulling

Not getting out more is a real problem...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23182523

 

[steve_1979]

The phrase 'get out more' is rude, not leg pulling

Getting out of phase? That'll be the passive crossover causing that.

Oh you said phrase not phase. Ooops

 

[BenLaw]

The phrase 'get out more' is rude, not leg pulling

Not getting out more is a real problem...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23182523

Apparently the average age for withdrawal is 15, so I just have a few more years left before it gets really bad.

 

[BenLaw]

The phrase 'get out more' is rude, not leg pulling

Getting out of phase? That'll be the passive crossover causing that.

Oh you said phrase not phase. Ooops

If that's the level of humour on this forum then *I'm* off! (Although just to another part of the house obviously, not outside.)

 

[John Duncan]

I had imagined this was a thread which held no dangers, and had therefore not been paying attention to it. D'oh.

 

[davedotco]

I had imagined this was a thread which held no dangers, and had therefore not been paying attention to it. D'oh.

Danger lurks around every corner, that sibilence stuff can be very nasty as I found out this morning.

 

[6th.replicant]

It's always the metal dome speakers that cause SSSSSSibilanThx

Better cymbals sound and sibilance (metal dome)or no sibilance and not so good cymbals (soft dome).

Beg to differ. IME, metal tweeter Totem Forest + bi-amp'd Arcam A38/P38 = sibilance-free zone.

A pair of Totem Forests, yesterday

I've heard that the Forests are supposed to be very good... did you demo them?

Mac

Yep. I'd been demo'ing speakers with my existing amps and CDP to the point of tedium. Then I tried some Forests, and one of the combo's many positive traits was bags of detail but no sibilance whatsoever

I bought the Forests on the spot

 

[altruistic.lemon]

I had imagined this was a thread which held no dangers, and had therefore not been paying attention to it. D'oh.

Danger lurks around every corner, that sibilence stuff can be very nasty as I found out this morning.

Nah. I thought that line was pretty funny, some Brits get on their high horse a bit easily, that's all.

 

[mitch65]

I had imagined this was a thread which held no dangers, and had therefore not been paying attention to it. D'oh.

Danger lurks around every corner, that sibilence stuff can be very nasty as I found out this morning.

Nah. I thought that line was pretty funny, some Brits get on their high horse a bit easily, that's all.

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

 

[chebby]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

 

[Macspur]

It's always the metal dome speakers that cause SSSSSSibilanThx

Better cymbals sound and sibilance (metal dome)or no sibilance and not so good cymbals (soft dome).

Beg to differ. IME, metal tweeter Totem Forest + bi-amp'd Arcam A38/P38 = sibilance-free zone.

A pair of Totem Forests, yesterday

I've heard that the Forests are supposed to be very good... did you demo them?

Mac

Yep. I'd been demo'ing speakers with my existing amps and CDP to the point of tedium. Then I tried some Forests, and one of the combo's many positive traits was bags of detail but no sibilance whatsoever

I bought the Forests on the spot

As a matter of interest, what source do you use?

Also, any chance of a mini review of the forests... it would be good to read something interesting

Mac

 

[CnoEvil]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

The Bit Rate that's a Brit Trait.....there's a tongue twister in there somewhere.

 

[mitch65]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

Don't know if that's high enough, sounds a bit pony though.

 

[chebby]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

Don't know if that's high enough, sounds a bit pony though.

Alas and ALAC, you might prefer FLAC, but I am not hapless because I can get gapless.

 

[mitch65]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

Don't know if that's high enough, sounds a bit pony though.

Alas and ALAC, you might prefer FLAC, but I am not hapless because I can get gapless.

:rofl:

 

[chebby]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

Don't know if that's high enough, sounds a bit pony though.

Alas and ALAC, you might prefer FLAC, but I am not hapless because I can get gapless.

:rofl:

You may well ROFL but - as fr0g will oft woffle - 320 (we're told) sounds the same with a blindfold.

 

[mitch65]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

Don't know if that's high enough, sounds a bit pony though.

Alas and ALAC, you might prefer FLAC, but I am not hapless because I can get gapless.

:rofl:

You may well ROFL but - as fr0g will oft woffle - 320 (we're told) sounds the same with a blindfold.

doesn't that muffle the sound?

 

[chebby]

Thought that more more of a human trait more than a Brit trait

I find 320K is a perfectly acceptable Brit trait.

Don't know if that's high enough, sounds a bit pony though.

Alas and ALAC, you might prefer FLAC, but I am not hapless because I can get gapless.

:rofl:

You may well ROFL but - as fr0g will oft woffle - 320 (we're told) sounds the same with a blindfold.

doesn't that muffle the sound?

It stops the highs sounding coarse from way up on my horse.

 

[steve_1979]

There is a theory, common in another place, that suggest that sibilence and other higher frequency harshness is caused by tweeters that are opperating at too low a frequency, remember in two way designs the bigest challenge is to roll off the bass driver before the cone breakup becomes too severe so tweeters are used down to frequencies at the limit of their abilities. I think there is some truth in this.

Low order crossovers are an issue too, the tweeter rolls off slowly and can still be producing significant output an octave or more below the crossover point, distortion produced at these frequencies is usually harmonically related and manifests itself at higher frequencies, harshness, sibilence etd.

Many metal dome tweeters are speced for use at lower frequencies than their soft dome counterparts, a big part of the problem in my view.

I have notice this happens with most of the cheap (and a few of the expensive) two-way speakers that use 8" woofers which need low crossover points.