Dts truehd or dts ma

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Hi all just picked up top gun br which has both formats, I have listened to both and i feel ma does sound better, Does anyone else feel much difference between the two,

Also how would you set up for best sound have the amp or br to decode, I have read all about linear or bitstream tad confused on this so a little help if available please, Just trying to get best out of system with little knowledge

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Linear and Bitstream, you wont hear a difference.. Well I cant anyway.

And I dont have a refined hearing as most, listened to transformers via DD 5.1 and HD Audio and I could not really hear a difference TBH
 
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Dolby TrueHD & DTS-MA are just the way they are compressed on the disc.....not sure why they would put 2 HD soundtracks on the 1 disc...both are lossless formats and should sound the same ,let your amp do the decoding.

The odd film comes with lpcm encoding but this takes up lots of space on the disc but it makes no difference lossless is lossless however it comes wrapped...all will sound great.
 
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jasonh:

Dolby TrueHD & DTS-MA are just the way they are compressed on the disc.....not sure why they would put 2 HD soundtracks on the 1 disc...both are lossless formats and should sound the same ,let your amp do the decoding.

The odd film comes with lpcm encoding but this takes up lots of space on the disc but it makes no difference lossless is lossless however it comes wrapped...all will sound great.

Hi jasonh,

the dts is dts hd ma is this still similar, from what i read elsewhere i presumed a disc would have one or the other
 
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Yes DTS Master Audio is the standard now along with Dolby True-HD,you normally get one or the other on a blu-ray disc but it would seem 'Top Gun' has both which is unusual...at least you can compare the two and satisfy your own curiosity to which sounds better,hit the display button on your blu-ray at the same point in the film and see what the bitrate is..the higher of the two the better the sound is in theory.
 
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I have just taken a look at the spec of the film in question and the reason why they have the two formats is that the DTS-MA is in 6.1 as opposed to the Dolby TruHD being 5.1.....hope that helps?
 
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They are not the same, the same way DD and DTS where not the same, DTS HD-MA has a higher bitrate as did the DTS against DD, The Master Audio Tracks tend to be louder then The Dolby THD ones, And more detailed to me , I Really Prefer DTS both on SD, and HD Formats.
 
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DTS is noticeably better than DD on standard discs and yes the bitrates are higher on Blu-Ray DTS-MA but both are lossless....louder doesn't mean better...but whatever floats your boat.
 
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I must admit I prefer the sound of DTS HD MA but surely they should sound all that differant. Once decoded they should be a bit for bit replica of the original film soundtrack used in the cinema. Isn't the file format just a differant file format for storing the info, like say Flac lossless and Apple lossless should still reproduce the sound of the original cd.

This explains it better:-

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I am not suggesting that louder means better, am just saying that it is both louder and sounds better, more dynamic and sharper, i just prefer the Dts soundstage and mix. It is surely my opinion, and surely not eceryone has to think it that way.
 
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Both formats are converted into LPCM in the end...so in theory they should sound the same yes... i think we're all used to looking for the DTS soundtrack on standard discs which makes us do the same with blu-ray.
 

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A similar thread can be found here. I can't add to it really, except to say a few things:

With a lossless soundtrack, comparing bitrates is not necessarily an indication of sound quality, just the ability of the algorithm to compress the soundtrack. A better algorithm means a lower bitrate in the sound track. If it's lossless, in theory, it should sound the same, no matter what the bitrate. However, people have compared the two and found differences and I'm in no position to question them.

The WHF review team agree that the equipment which decodes the soundtrack makes a difference. Again, I'm in no position to argue (and trusting their judgement), thus meaning getting the amplifier to decode the soundtracks generally produces better results than the Blu-Ray player.

I have 300 and have heard the Dolby TrueHD track and the uncompressed PCM track which is present on the disc. Without doubt, the uncompressed PCM soundtrack was the best. This backs up the WHF view - with no decoding being done (since the PCM soundtrack is uncompressed and therefore doesn't need decoding), the lack of this processing results in it sounding better.
 
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Agree 100% on 300, the LPCM track is better to me, maybe it is the ability of the Decoder to decode a particular format, maybe it is just the PS3 that gives out a better DTS HD Mix, then DTHD, and I found many LPCM soundtracks to be better than Dolby THD,
 

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It's difficult to say which is better, but the best soundtrack I've heard is from the Dark Knight and that's a Dolby True-HD soundtrack.
 
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Yep top gun is a good comparison you can hear the difference clearly,
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imo just as dts was better than dd, dts ma is better than dolby hd. i could notice a massive difference in sound quality when i switched from a ps3 to a dedicated bluray player with my amp doing the decoding, dtsma sounds that much better, that i hate buying discs that only have ddhd. Transformers 2 is the best dtsma sound i have heard so far, took my breath away.
 
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gel:Yep top gun is a good comparison you can hear the difference clearly,
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And the dtsma is a clear winner in my mind,
 
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professorhat:

A similar thread can be found here. I can't add to it really, except to say a few things:

With a lossless soundtrack, comparing bitrates is not necessarily an indication of sound quality, just the ability of the algorithm to compress the soundtrack. A better algorithm means a lower bitrate in the sound track. If it's lossless, in theory, it should sound the same, no matter what the bitrate. However, people have compared the two and found differences and I'm in no position to question them.

The WHF review team agree that the equipment which decodes the soundtrack makes a difference. Again, I'm in no position to argue (and trusting their judgement), thus meaning getting the amplifier to decode the soundtracks generally produces better results than the Blu-Ray player.

I have 300 and have heard the Dolby TrueHD track and the uncompressed PCM track which is present on the disc. Without doubt, the uncompressed PCM soundtrack was the best. This backs up the WHF view - with no decoding being done (since the PCM soundtrack is uncompressed and therefore doesn't need decoding), the lack of this processing results in it sounding better.

Hi prof

so when i watched apocolypto i should of set it to uncompressed pcm not dd and this would of had better sound?
 

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iamthetimberman:so when i watched apocolypto i should of set it to uncompressed pcm not dd and this would of had better sound?

No, it would HAVE had better sound than DD. It should be much better than DD in fact.
 
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I will have too agree on that, terminator has a huge soundtrack.
 

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