Deciding on a projector

[ibl0010]

Woud a 720p projector that has (2500 lumens and 13,000 contrast) gives better picture than a 1080p projector that has ( 10,000 contrast and 200 lumens)

 

[bigboss]

I think you mean 2000 lumens and not 200 lumens.

A 720p projector will always look worse than a 1080p one.

Lumens and contrast really depends on how bright your room is. If you can manage total darkness, even 900 lumens is sufficient. For bright rooms, anything over 1500 lumens is sufficient.

Which models are you thinking of?

 

[abacus]

Don’t get obsessed with specs as bigger is not always better with projectors, (A properly designed 720p projector will look better than a poorly designed 1080p projector) so pop along to your local dealer and view some in your price range, as just like audio there is no one size fits all.

Hope this helps

Bill

 

[ibl0010]

I think you mean 2000 lumens and not 200 lumens.

A 720p projector will always look worse than a 1080p one.

Lumens and contrast really depends on how bright your room is. If you can manage total darkness, even 900 lumens is sufficient. For bright rooms, anything over 1500 lumens is sufficient.

Which models are you thinking of?

Sorry, I meant 2000 lumen not 200. The pj i had in mind is the benq w1070 or w750. Money is not the barrier for considering the w750 but i just thought since it has higher lumens and contrast that it may give better (PQ) than the full HD w1070.

I will be re-docorating a small room with a projector in mind but unfounately i can't have the room all black. i will probably paint the room ivory (which is a bright colour) but to make a projector possible in the room my plan is to have black out bling with curtain to block light from outside and also put up a black velevet curtain about 1.5 meter out on the ceiling and the two side of the screen wall. Hope this will help with the reflextion in the room.

 

[bigboss]

I would recommend a screen like Draper 2.1 to reject ambient light.

 

[ibl0010]

Don’t get obsessed with specs as bigger is not always better with projectors, (A properly designed 720p projector will look better than a poorly designed 1080p projector) so pop along to your local dealer and view some in your price range, as just like audio there is no one size fits all.

Hope this helps

Bill

Good point. In your view and as a guide, which 720p projector would you cosider to be properly design that will look better than a poorly designed full hd projector. Like, which full hd projector do you cosider to be properly designed.

 

[ibl0010]

Don’t get obsessed with specs as bigger is not always better with projectors, (A properly designed 720p projector will look better than a poorly designed 1080p projector) so pop along to your local dealer and view some in your price range, as just like audio there is no one size fits all.

Hope this helps

Bill

Good point. In your view and as a guide, which 720p projector would you cosider to be properly design that will look better than a poorly designed full hd projector. Like, which full hd projector do you cosider to be properly designed.

 

[bigboss]

What's your budget?

This has a good review:

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/projectors/1299286/benq-w1070

Personally, I wouldn't go for a 720p projector at all.

 

[bigboss]

Can you stretch your budget to this:

http://www.whathifi.com/review/epson-eh-tw5910

 

[bigboss]

Also check this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BenQ-W1080ST-Short-Throw-1080P-DLP-Projector-High-Definition-1080p-Resolution-/360839293987?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

 

[ibl0010]

What's your budget?

This has a good review:

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/projectors/1299286/benq-w1070

Personally, I wouldn't go for a 720p projector at all.

Budegt is about £800 either for the projector or the tv route depending on which gives better picture quality. I have looked into the epson 5910 you linked to but reading many article it seem DLP is the way to go as particularly with 3d LCD projector suffer from cross talk.

 

[ibl0010]

What's your budget?

This has a good review:

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/projectors/1299286/benq-w1070

Personally, I wouldn't go for a 720p projector at all.

Budegt is about £800 either for the projector or the tv route depending on which gives better picture quality. I have looked into the epson 5910 you linked to but reading many article it seem DLP is the way to go as particularly with 3d LCD projector suffer from cross talk.

 

[bigboss]

You do know that 3D is dying.

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-3d-tv-movement-already-dead/

DLP projectors suffer from rainbow effect, have relatively poor blacks and worse contrast ratio as compared to LCDs. How much 3D are you realistically going to watch? You really should demo and compare.

 

[his dudeness]

Can you stretch your budget to this:

http://www.whathifi.com/review/epson-eh-tw5910

i looked for this a couple of weeks ago doesnt seem to be available anymore.

 

[kikiso]

I recommend anyone to go and look at the DLP projectors first to see what they think. I have an Optoma HD25 which in my opionnion does not suffer from any of the things mentioned. I woluld compare this to speakers, yolu can't go on specs alone, much depends on your environment and other factors. I'm projecting onto an 80 inch screen, and the room is darkenned, not always black and I find the picture very acceptable. Everyone who visits is amazed on how good it is.

I have never seen the rainbow effect, this effects some and not others, and as far as 3D is concerned, films are still being made in 3D and on a large screen they are great. I also have a 3D 50 inch TV and the 3D just doesn't have an impact and is a waste of time.

I'm not saying that DLP projectors are for everyone, but I want to just make the case for them as I'm 100% happy with the one I have. I am considering a better screen, I made a slight booboo with the pullup screen in that it ripples. This can be corrected by some messing about, but I'm looking to replace it with a fixed frame screen.

 

[bigboss]

I recommend anyone to go and look at the DLP projectors first to see what they think.

That's the key: a demo. I haven't noticed much crosstalk with the Sony LCD projector when I demoed few months ago.

 

[ibl0010]

I recommend anyone to go and look at the DLP projectors first to see what they think. I have an Optoma HD25 which in my opionnion does not suffer from any of the things mentioned. I woluld compare this to speakers, yolu can't go on specs alone, much depends on your environment and other factors. I'm projecting onto an 80 inch screen, and the room is darkenned, not always black and I find the picture very acceptable. Everyone who visits is amazed on how good it is.

I have never seen the rainbow effect, this effects some and not others, and as far as 3D is concerned, films are still being made in 3D and on a large screen they are great. I also have a 3D 50 inch TV and the 3D just doesn't have an impact and is a waste of time.

I'm not saying that DLP projectors are for everyone, but I want to just make the case for them as I'm 100% happy with the one I have. I am considering a better screen, I made a slight booboo with the pullup screen in that it ripples. This can be corrected by some messing about, but I'm looking to replace it with a fixed frame screen.

I will 100% agree with you and (big boss) on the demo recommedation as am sure both technology have its advantages and disadvantages. So only after demo of both technology is one able to compare and contrast each one DLP and LCD.

Few qestion to you (kikiso) if you dont mind:

1. When you say ''darkenned, not always black'' what adjust did you make to your set up room.

2. I also notice you have a 3d plasma tv but how does the picture quality (black, colour etc) of your plasma comapare to your hd25.

3. What is your viewing distance from your 80 inches screen and at what distance is your hd25 to the screen

thanks

 

[kikiso]

I didn't make any adjustments to the room, I have normal curtains with a blackout lining and in the daytime when I close them I still have light getting into the room. The only time my room is truly black is at night time. Earlier today for example I was watching Sky with only partially drawn curtains, and it was fine with the lamp turned to "bright". At night I can use "ECO" mode and I’m happy with it.

The black on my TV is very good and the projector will never be as good as this, however, when watching a film I prefer the picture from the projector as it has more of a cinematic quality. Calibration of both the TV and projector are important. I have done this myself and currently considering getting this done professionally, the only thing holding me back is that I'm actually quite happy with what I've got. The TV and projector screen are at opposite ends of the same room so easy to compare, they are both driven via the same AV Amp so I can have the two showing the same material. The real challenge in my setup has been speaker placement, but I have just about solved that.

I sit about 8 feet from the projector screen.

 

[abacus]

Out of your two original projectors the decision is a no brainer, go for the 1070 as it blows the 750 out of the water.

I have always found DLP to have more definition, better blacks, contrast and a 3 dimensional quality, however LCD have come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, thus as you go up in price they are as good as (And better than many) DLP projectors.

You may be interested in Trusted reviews best buys here http://www.trustedreviews.com/best_projectors?Price%5B%5D=%C2%A3500+-+%C2%A31500

Just remember there is no substitute to actually seeing how they perform for you as everybody sees things differently.

Hope this helps

Bill

 

[ibl0010]

Out of your two original projectors the decision is a no brainer, go for the 1070 as it blows the 750 out of the water.

I have always found DLP to have more definition, better blacks, contrast and a 3 dimensional quality, however LCD have come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, thus as you go up in price they are as good as (And better than many) DLP projectors.

You may be interested in Trusted reviews best buys here http://www.trustedreviews.com/best_projectors?Price%5B%5D=%C2%A3500+-+%C2%A31500

Just remember there is no substitute to actually seeing how they perform for you as everybody sees things differently.

Hope this helps

Bill

Just had a look at that best buy link and surprisingly the w1070 was awarded better star than more expensive benq w1500 and epson tw5910.

 

[bigboss]

Price is an important factor in star rating too. Don't follow star ratings blindly. Anything above 8 stars is good and should be in your demo list.

 

[kikiso]

Also something else that may or may not effect your decission is the size and weight of the projector. DLP seem to be much more compact. compared to LCD.