I have to use my home cinema setup as my hifi setup also,if i were to use the multichannel analogue outputs instead of hdmi would cds sound better?
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Gerrardasnails
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mark hooper:
I have to use my home cinema setup as my hifi setup also,if i were to use the multichannel analogue outputs instead of hdmi would cds sound better?
You won't need multi channel for stereo, just a pair of stereo interconnects. As for the difference, it's whether the DAC in the Bluray player is better than the one in your amp. If it is, interconnects, if not, hdmi/coaxial.
I have to use my home cinema setup as my hifi setup also,if i were to use the multichannel analogue outputs instead of hdmi would cds sound better?
You won't need multi channel for stereo, just a pair of stereo interconnects. As for the difference, it's whether the DAC in the Bluray player is better than the one in your amp. If it is, interconnects, if not, hdmi/coaxial.
To piggy back off the OP, what value Blu-ray player is equal to what value CD player when using stereo phonos. (i.e. my Pioneer BDP-LX91, with it's wolfson DAC?)
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JTD:To piggy back off the OP, what value Blu-ray player is equal to what value CD player when using stereo phonos. (i.e. my Pioneer BDP-LX91, with it's wolfson DAC?)
I think you're going to struggle to get an answer to this question as it's incredibly subjective and there are a huge number of variables. There's no general "a CD player of this price" = "a Blu-Ray player of this price" equation that I'm aware of since the Blu-Ray players vary wildly in their respective quality at spinning CDs - as you'd expect, BD players made by dedicated Hi-Fi specialists such as Arcam and Cambridge Audio could well be more musical than the likes of an LG player of the same price.
In terms of your Pioneer, it's an expensive player with some expensive components so it's reasonable to expect it to outclass any budget CD player. As you get towards the Cyrus CD 6 SE levels though, I'd imagine you're getting to the stage where a dedicated player is likely to be able to give you more for your money for CD playback, but I couldn't say exactly without comparing them.
And of course these dedicated CD players won't play Blu-Rays too well...
I think you're going to struggle to get an answer to this question as it's incredibly subjective and there are a huge number of variables. There's no general "a CD player of this price" = "a Blu-Ray player of this price" equation that I'm aware of since the Blu-Ray players vary wildly in their respective quality at spinning CDs - as you'd expect, BD players made by dedicated Hi-Fi specialists such as Arcam and Cambridge Audio could well be more musical than the likes of an LG player of the same price.
In terms of your Pioneer, it's an expensive player with some expensive components so it's reasonable to expect it to outclass any budget CD player. As you get towards the Cyrus CD 6 SE levels though, I'd imagine you're getting to the stage where a dedicated player is likely to be able to give you more for your money for CD playback, but I couldn't say exactly without comparing them.
And of course these dedicated CD players won't play Blu-Rays too well...
professorhat:
I think you're going to struggle to get an answer to this question as it's incredibly subjective and there are a huge number of variables. There's no general "a CD player of this price" = "a Blu-Ray player of this price" equation that I'm aware of since the Blu-Ray players vary wildly in their respective quality at spinning CDs - as you'd expect, BD players made by dedicated Hi-Fi specialists such as Arcam and Cambridge Audio could well be more musical than the likes of an LG player of the same price.
In terms of your Pioneer, it's an expensive player with some expensive components so it's reasonable to expect it to outclass any budget CD player. As you get towards the Cyrus CD 6 SE levels though, I'd imagine you're getting to the stage where a dedicated player is likely to be able to give you more for your money for CD playback, but I couldn't say exactly without comparing them.
And of course these dedicated CD players won't play Blu-Rays too well...
Thanks prof
And Gel, I meant anyone!
I think you're going to struggle to get an answer to this question as it's incredibly subjective and there are a huge number of variables. There's no general "a CD player of this price" = "a Blu-Ray player of this price" equation that I'm aware of since the Blu-Ray players vary wildly in their respective quality at spinning CDs - as you'd expect, BD players made by dedicated Hi-Fi specialists such as Arcam and Cambridge Audio could well be more musical than the likes of an LG player of the same price.
In terms of your Pioneer, it's an expensive player with some expensive components so it's reasonable to expect it to outclass any budget CD player. As you get towards the Cyrus CD 6 SE levels though, I'd imagine you're getting to the stage where a dedicated player is likely to be able to give you more for your money for CD playback, but I couldn't say exactly without comparing them.
And of course these dedicated CD players won't play Blu-Rays too well...
Thanks prof
And Gel, I meant anyone!
Can a bluray player be connected to both a stereo amp (via 2 channel RCA), as well as an AV amp (via HDMI)?
I currently have a Panasonic DMP-BD80 bluray connected to a Yamaha DSP-AX863SE AV amp using Van Den Hull HDMI Flat and I'm looking to introduce a Rotel RA-01 amp to play audio CDs (and utilise the bluray's analogue channels).
I find the stereo from the Rotel (with B&W DM602 S3 speakers) sounds more superior than the stereo mode from the Yamaha AV.
I currently have a Panasonic DMP-BD80 bluray connected to a Yamaha DSP-AX863SE AV amp using Van Den Hull HDMI Flat and I'm looking to introduce a Rotel RA-01 amp to play audio CDs (and utilise the bluray's analogue channels).
I find the stereo from the Rotel (with B&W DM602 S3 speakers) sounds more superior than the stereo mode from the Yamaha AV.
I was having this problem so this weekend i bought Cambridge Audio Azur 650BD based on the reviews from WHAT HIFI. Got home connected it up via the DacMagic and through my Sony STR-DA3500ES and my music has never sounded so detailed and clear.
am i right in saying then , that if one is using a bluray player for cds , over hdmi to an av receiver , that the "dac" in the bluray player is doing the converting , and not the dac in the amp ??
Yeah that's correct which is why I've connected it up via an optical cable which runs through the DacMagic and then into the reciever which is then set to analogue direct.
I've tried running the player directly to the reciever and missing out the DacMagic altogether and there is a very noticable difference in the sound. It's much clearer and more detailed through the DacMagic than through the reciever alone.
I've tried running the player directly to the reciever and missing out the DacMagic altogether and there is a very noticable difference in the sound. It's much clearer and more detailed through the DacMagic than through the reciever alone.
maxflinn:am i right in saying then , that if one is using a bluray player for cds , over hdmi to an av receiver , that the "dac" in the bluray player is doing the converting , and not the dac in the amp ??
No: the signal over HDMI is digital, and the digital-to-analogue conversion in the amp is doing the work.
No: the signal over HDMI is digital, and the digital-to-analogue conversion in the amp is doing the work.
Andrew Everard:
maxflinn:am i right in saying then , that if one is using a bluray player for cds , over hdmi to an av receiver , that the "dac" in the bluray player is doing the converting , and not the dac in the amp ??
No: the signal over HDMI is digital, and the digital-to-analogue conversion in the amp is doing the work.
ah , that does make sense , any data transported over hdmi can only be digital then ? so when watching a bluray with say , dts master audio , how do i know whats doing the decoding , the sony or the yamaha ? im assuming the yamaha would be better doing this ?
maxflinn:am i right in saying then , that if one is using a bluray player for cds , over hdmi to an av receiver , that the "dac" in the bluray player is doing the converting , and not the dac in the amp ??
No: the signal over HDMI is digital, and the digital-to-analogue conversion in the amp is doing the work.
ah , that does make sense , any data transported over hdmi can only be digital then ? so when watching a bluray with say , dts master audio , how do i know whats doing the decoding , the sony or the yamaha ? im assuming the yamaha would be better doing this ?
Depends whether you have the Sony set to auto or LPCM output. If the former, the receiver is doing both the decoding and the digital-to-analogue conversion; if the latter, the Sony is decoding and downmixing to two channel, the receiver doing the conversion.
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