Best large screen (58 inch minimum) 3D LED?

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Here are the choices

Samsung 65" 8000 series (Edge LED)

Sony 60" LX (Edge LED)

Sharp 60" Quattron (Edge LED)

Philips 58" 21:9 Cinema (Full LED)

Which one would you go for for BD/DVD watching in a dark home cinema? Please don't say go for plasma[]. I love my Kuro but I wonder if the brightest, sharper LED picture would be better for my taste?

 

[Anonymous]

all of those tv's suffer from 3d crosstalk, and because they are first gen 3d sets they are expensive.. id wait a few months and see what 2011 brings, maybe less lcd 3d crosstalk for less money...

 

[tvspecv]

please dont say go for the plasma?

thats the model that i would highly recommend lcd still dont in my view have the deeper more natural picture than a plasma so sorry to disappoint.

 

[Clare Newsome]

At that size/price - and in a dark room- i'd seriously consider saving up for one of the new generation of 3D projectors (JVC; Sony). At least have an audition of both these before you buy your big screen...

And we have a review of the Philips 21:9 screen in our next issue, by the way - posted out to subscribers on Friday, in shops by December 9th.

 

[tvspecv]

hmmm.... you`ll need long hdmi leads aswell

 

[TheHomeCinemaCentre]

I can't vouch for the Samsung but of the remaining three the Philips is my pick. The Sharp is very good for the money and the 2d to 3d conversion is better than you may think. For films though the lack of black bars makes the 3" you gain with the Philips over the Sharp seem much more.

 

[Anonymous]

tvspecv:
please dont say go for the plasma?

thats the model that i would highly recommend lcd still dont in my view have the deeper more natural picture than a plasma so sorry to disappoint.

When I upgrade probably I will go for a Panasonic plasma but I just wanted to know if LED was the only choice what would be the best.

And unfortunately i don't have the room for a projector

 

[Anonymous]

"58" LCD TV for the home cinema" - if not projector, I would say the 58PFL9955 is tailored for this - plus the Ambilight - please note that it is true 58" you get = 65" on a 16:9.

While the world is focused at 3D, there is a silent revolution going on with 21:9, many TV channels now cut to 21:9, series, documentary, music, even CNN is going 21:9 ( using red bars ). Below examples are from four different channels, and three different countries.

 

[jcshutts]

I am for the JVC Projector. Richer Sounds will have them in store in the next couple of weeks I believe. I wish I could have persuaded my dearest. The latest technology allows for the projector to be off centre and you can place it on a table or cabinet at the side of the room and it won't get in the way. A pull down screen and off you go. The HDMI may cost a couple of hundred (or so) but overall, I would anticipate a much more involving experience. I have my 52 " Sony. Love it, very pleased, but wish I had something even bigger!

go for the projector......

 

[robjcooper]

How can anyone recommend images artificially zoomed 33% to fill the philips 21:9 screen - 2.35:1 being a resolution of 1920 x 815 of active picture on a native 16:9 image from a blu-ray for example, made to fit a screen with a resolution of 2560 x 1080 means you're watching 33% of a picture interpolated by the software and hardware in the TV. Still I suppose the ambilight probably distracts the viewer from the inevitable interpolation errors .... ooh ! aah! look at all the pretty colours on the wall !!! Until someone changes all the SMPTE and EBU specs to make 21:9 a part of the HD world, and then manufacturers start making broadcast equipment which can source, store, post, grade and transmit native 21:9 then Philips would appear (IMHO) to be flogging the proverbial dead horse.

If you want a really big screen, buy one that comes down from the ceiling along with a decent projector to make the most of it.

Rob

 

[Anonymous]

I think preference is different from user to user - taste and what makes a good movie experience is probably very different from user to user.

SD material is scaled on most TV sets, so nothing new here. A DVD has to be scalled on a full HD TV - a 16:9 DVD source dosnt look pretty on a 65" anyway, Left is 16:9 on blu ray - those who already saw the 58PFL9955 say 16:9 from blu ray scaled to fit has a sufficient PQ, but you can chose not to scale and watch in native format. The sacrifise is you watch 46" and not 65".

Or simply buy your blu ray movies in whide format, if you realy realy want a particular movie shot in 16:9, I suppose this isnt a problem though.

Personally, 4 of 5 movies I watch are in 21:9 or other whide cinema format. I only watch 16:9 movies when there is no alternative. In weekends most channels sends movies at the same time, typically 4-6 movies to select from - I have today a 16:9 TV set, but always prefere the 21:9 movies, even I get black bars on top and buttom - now why is that ?????

 

[TKratz]

robjcooper:

How can anyone recommend images artificially zoomed 33% to fill the philips 21:9 screen - 2.35:1 being a resolution of 1920 x 815 of active picture on a native 16:9 image from a blu-ray for example, made to fit a screen with a resolution of 2560 x 1080 means you're watching 33% of a picture interpolated by the software and hardware in the TV. Still I suppose the ambilight probably distracts the viewer from the inevitable interpolation errors .... ooh ! aah! look at all the pretty colours on the wall !!! Until someone changes all the SMPTE and EBU specs to make 21:9 a part of the HD world, and then manufacturers start making broadcast equipment which can source, store, post, grade and transmit native 21:9 then Philips would appear (IMHO) to be flogging the proverbial dead horse.

If you want a really big screen, buy one that comes down from the ceiling along with a decent projector to make the most of it.

Rob

 

[Clare Newsome]

pppp1:
And unfortunately i don't have the room for a projector

They take up/require less space than you'd think. What size room/throw distance (distance from projector to screen) do you have?

I sit 12ft away from my 83in projector screen, with the projector sitting on a shelf behind the sofa....

 

[Anonymous]

Clare Newsome:pppp1:
And unfortunately i don't have the room for a projector

They take up/require less space than you'd think. What size room/throw distance (distance from projector to screen) do you have?

I sit 12ft away from my 83in projector screen, with the projector sitting on a shelf behind the sofa....

I sit 2.5m from screen. It's a small room (4mx3m). And my room has white walls although i managed to cover a portion. If I went for a projector I would want it to be in a completely dark room and I don't have the time and money right now for the complicated setup of a projector based cinema (painting the walls, completely reconfiguring the room etc)

 

[Anonymous]

I did the math and the 58" 21:9 Philips is the equivalent of watching a 21:9 movie on a 61" 16:9 screen, not a 65".

 

[kinda]

I sit about 3m away from a screen abut 2m wide, (can't remember diagonal inches). It's great.

I have white walls and some lamp light coming through blinds at night, so I never get utter darkness, and the picture is really good. Not quite as good in full daylight but great none the less for watching grand prix and the like.

I'm not saying there isn't benefit to the room treatment, but it's not a pre-requisite. I don't see installing a projector being any more problematic than putting in a massive TV. and I think you'll enjopy the projector more; there's nothing more cinematic than a proper big projector picture

 

[Chewy]

pppp1:Clare Newsome:pppp1:

And unfortunately i don't have the room for a projector

They take up/require less space than you'd think. What size room/throw distance (distance from projector to screen) do you have?

I sit 12ft away from my 83in projector screen, with the projector sitting on a shelf behind the sofa....

I sit 2.5m from screen. It's a small room (4mx3m). And my room has white walls although i managed to cover a portion. If I went for a projector I would want it to be in a completely dark room and I don't have the time and money right now for the complicated setup of a projector based cinema (painting the walls, completely reconfiguring the room etc)

Your room would be fine for a PJ, not perfect, but perfectly acceptable. Most of us unfortunately don't have the luxury of a dedicated 'bat cave', so light walls are commonplace. Up your screen size and the cinematic experience will go up with it.

I don't have personal experience of the sets you are considering, but I would have thought they would struggle to keep up with your current Kuro. If brightness is an issue, perhaps your current set would benefit from a good calibration session?? You might find it improves your percieved sharpness/clarity of the image also.