My local HiFi dealer has their network wired using standard Cat 6 cabling I believe. You need to do a true blind listening test where you are unaware of the cable being used.
Non-believers would think that's a good idea.You need to do a true blind listening test where you are unaware of the cable being used.
No idea on that one.In which case you may have an answer to the question I put to Jimmy in post #73.
Specifically, how identical (working) cables could be the cause of a channel imbalance.
The problem I have here is not that they recommend it because it makes an improvement, but what are they benchmarking against to begin with? What is the environment like in the house or testing environment? Where is the router/switch going to be located they are patching into? What's equipment/devices are around the switch or cable? Where does the cable need to travel between and what is the distance? What is the end device they are testing this with? What is the testing applications suite? Browsing through a bunch of reviews, I cannot find an example of where this is all provided.There have been a number of positive reviews of cables and switches from the HI-Fi press, including “What Hi-Fi”, owner of this forum over the years.
However, where they state a positive recommendation for an expensive cable or switch, how did they come to this conclusion.
I think in this case it's not necessarilly the cable, but i'm wondering if the performance is because this isn't a pre-manufactured XLR-XLR cable, but made up cable order from ebay. The cabling these cables was made from, the Mogami Neglex 2534 which looks to be a popular cable. Is it worth getting these sent off to be reterminated?No doubt the original XLRs were made with identical cable on both the left and right channels Jimmy.
So how could (working) cables have been the cause of any imbalance?
That seems more likely, though as you're suggesting, it wouldn't explain why the new XLR leads cured it.I wondered if it was the Volume POT on the Topping A90
Thanks for the write up. For context, what streamer do you use, and have you a network switch either just after the hub/router or before the streamer? Or maybe both?I would say, without trying to sound elitist, that unless you have a high end and super revealing system you will hear so little difference (if any) that you should stick with a good quality standard cat8 Ethernet cable and spend your money on other things Like a bottle of wine or putting the heating on.
I don’t believe it does make a difference. If it does make a difference, why does Qobuz sound good on my headphone amp, via the pc and the internet?Can it really make that difference to digital? Is speed important? Is speed affected by cable type? For instance in my office at work we are on a Gigabit switch with superfast speeds on the Cable is only Cat5 not even 5e and it's a long wat from the local switch. Maybe 50m.
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No, exactly the reverse.Is speed affected by cable type?
I presume all the differences you heard you were using a double blind test and not just swapping cables and listening. (if not your results cannot be verified and so are meaningless to anyone but yourself)Even with my failing hearing I can hear a clear difference between some Ethernet cables. Whether it’s the quality of the wire, the connectors or the shielding, they can and very often do sound different to one another. I have just replaced a 8m cat8 uGreen cable (which sounded very good) with something that sounds better but cost about 10 times the price. Generally I have been unimpressed with cheaper “audio” ethernet cables and swopped them out for a uGreen cat8 loom and used the extra money from selling my “audio” cables to buy something else.
Then, one day, my brother in law came around with a super high end Ethernet cable that had been universally very well reviewed. It “sounded” very good indeed but not as good enough to make me want to buy one, However, it did set me off on trying to achieve a cost effective upgrade that would go someway towards recreating the achievable audio improvements.
I like the sound of silver plated copper and pure silver conductors in audio connectors, so that’s what I looked for. I like value for money and I don’t mind getting my hands dirty, so I thought I might try making a cable. I noticed most high end Ethernet cables use Telegartner connectors. My initial thoughts were simply to try replacing the connectors on my uGreen cables with Telegartner connections and see if that improved things, but as the connectors cost more than the cables I thought I would go the whole hog. and change the cable as well. I then found DH Labs reunion cable was available off the reel., it was cat8 (best shielding spec) silver plated copper cable. I started with a making a single length, swopping out the final length of uGreen cable to my streamer and was initially not blown away by the very slight change. I left my system running over the next couple of days and presto! more detail and a generally smoother and less harsh sound quality. I have slowly changed the three lengths of cable between my NAS and streamer and each increment was a significant improvement. The final link was the long 8 m length. Not great value for money, but every little bit helps.
Making the cable was easy and I already had the tools needed. (stanley knife, wire stripper, mole grips, small adjustable spanner).
I would say, without trying to sound elitist, that unless you have a high end and super revealing system you will hear so little difference (if any) that you should stick with a good quality standard cat8 Ethernet cable and spend your money on other things Like a bottle of wine or putting the heating on.
...If onlyI presume all the differences you heard you were using a double blind test
Tempting.Bloody serious if it is about spending £3,430.00 on1 meter of Ethernet cable. Comes with a free burn in though!