Saw on the news the other night that independent vinyl retailers are seeing a further rise in record sales. Good news all-round for employment and the qualities vinyl provides.
There is some hope for the traditionalists.
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I do hope independent record stores can continue to survive, and hopefully, flourish.
Vinyl in shops, is getting easier and easier to get, but the bargains that were once available at car boots etc, are proving more and more difficult to find, as all the dealers are there at the crack of dawn, fighting each other to get to them. I tried to compete with some last weekend, but, I don't know if it's luck, or experience, but they all seem to beat me to the best records. One guy spent £110 on about 10 records, while I didn't have more than £30 on me.
Vinyl is most definitely back.
Vinyl in shops, is getting easier and easier to get, but the bargains that were once available at car boots etc, are proving more and more difficult to find, as all the dealers are there at the crack of dawn, fighting each other to get to them. I tried to compete with some last weekend, but, I don't know if it's luck, or experience, but they all seem to beat me to the best records. One guy spent £110 on about 10 records, while I didn't have more than £30 on me.
Vinyl is most definitely back.
Frank Harvey
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We haven't even begun to promote the fact that we now sell vinyl in store, but a local guy came in the other day who had never even visited our store before to buy vinyl because someone had told him about us.
Things are definitely looking good for vinyl sales, and if you look at just how much stuff is out there on new vinyl (old and new artists), it almost seems like there's far more available than there was ten years ago.
Things are definitely looking good for vinyl sales, and if you look at just how much stuff is out there on new vinyl (old and new artists), it almost seems like there's far more available than there was ten years ago.
Hi-FiOutlaw
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There seems to be a overall, albeit small, increases year-by-year, first reported here by WHFI themselves. That said, in my neck of the woods, they are sparse. The nearest is Kingston....
While driving through Kingston a few months ago, I noticed the record shop in (I think) London Road, near the falling down phone boxes anyway. I think they were selling mainly cds when I lived around there in the nineties, but I'm sure I noticed vinyl through the window as I drove past.
I also remember at the end of the nineties that there was a little record shop in Worcester Park, but having not been there since, I have no idea if it's still there.
I also remember at the end of the nineties that there was a little record shop in Worcester Park, but having not been there since, I have no idea if it's still there.
Charlie Jefferson
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Yes, it's good news in terms of vinyl availability. As BBB mentioned, it's a trade off between new found availability and higher prices for car boot and charity shop LPs, but on balance it's definitely preferable to see actual record shops survive and maybe prosper.
Leeds, as mentioned previously. Is quite well served. After Crash and Jumbo, the third ranked, for me at least, is Relics. Excellent availability but perceptibly increased prices. Crash has even revamped the years old layout and swapped the CDs and vinyl displays around, giving greater prominence to vinyl. All interesting and hopefully not short-lived stuff.
Leeds, as mentioned previously. Is quite well served. After Crash and Jumbo, the third ranked, for me at least, is Relics. Excellent availability but perceptibly increased prices. Crash has even revamped the years old layout and swapped the CDs and vinyl displays around, giving greater prominence to vinyl. All interesting and hopefully not short-lived stuff.
BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
http://www.suttonguardian.co.uk/news/5012548.Worcester_Park_record_store_set_to_close_after_20_years/
It's closed then.
BenLaw
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Charlie Jefferson said:
When I visited a friend in Leeds many years ago, he took me to a record shop in Halifax, can't remember quite where, but it was in an old building with lots of other shops.
That was good as far as I remember.
BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
Used to live around the Sutton area and had popped into Mikes a few times over the years. Let's hope the upturn in sales has helped the little shops a bit more.
Charlie Jefferson
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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
Sounds like The Peace (or Piece) Hall in Halofax. Not been for years myself but I recall it being home to some vinyl stores.
Frank Harvey
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Al ears
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Good news for vinyl lovers indeed, and it is good to know shops are re-opening.
I was walking through Abergavenny the other week and noticed a smallish shop dealing only in vinyl that I hadn't noticed before. Turns out he has been there 4 years.
So my nearest store is no longer Newport as it used to be.
I really must get out more.
I was walking through Abergavenny the other week and noticed a smallish shop dealing only in vinyl that I hadn't noticed before. Turns out he has been there 4 years.
So my nearest store is no longer Newport as it used to be.
I really must get out more.
DIB
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I've only been to one record fair this year, back in June, armed with a small amount of birthday money. There was plenty of vinyl for sale, but bargains were as scarce as dobby horse droppings. I couldn't believe the high prices for some quite frankly average condition LPs. I have found the same on Ebay so just stick to the LPs I already own and concentrate on CDs now when it comes to new purchases.
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Al ears
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DIB said:
That is indeed unfortunate. I have rarely managed to find good quality bargains at car boot sales or the like. I have had a few on Ebay but only rely on a couple of dealersthat I have used in the past and can rely on their rating system. Otherwise I stick to the independent dealers knowing full well that I may be paying slightly over-the-odds but having the peace of mind concerning product quality there as well.
The price of records is the issue I have. Look on any of the auction sites and they are at least twice the price od cds. That's not right. Some say because they are looked after lovingly, but that's rubbish. The word 'exploitation' springs to mind.
A year ago I had 5 LPs and a used RP1 TT, a year later I have a better deck (albeit a Rega one) and a serious addiction to vinyl - Im glad I got into it!
it all down to supply & demand I reckon! less and less people are buying CDs so prices of CDs can only go down - economics n all that - just saying like!
it all down to supply & demand I reckon! less and less people are buying CDs so prices of CDs can only go down - economics n all that - just saying like!
Al ears
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stevebrock said:
Quite right stevebrock. It wasn't so long ago people were taking their old vinyl to the tip because they couldn't sell it.
How times have changed. I do know that the price of new vinyl is steep but this is predominantly down to the cost of raw materials (just look at the price of Brent Crude these days and you'll know where I'm coming from) and more people seem to prefer their LPs to be pressed on the heavier weights of vinyl.
However, these days if I was given the choice of buying 2 CDs or one LP (for approx. the same outlay pricewise) I know which I would go for.
I actually do not think I will ever buy a CD ever again, except for my daughters - they like all thet chart rubbish!
2 cds or 1 LP = the latter for me everyttime!
2 cds or 1 LP = the latter for me everyttime!
Talking about pricing....am I the only one who doesn't think new LPs are overpriced? Well no more than they ever were. If you inflate the price of premium-price premium-label records from LPs' heyday you get to about £25-30 per LP in today's money. That's why there was such a proliferation of budget labels like MFP, Pickwick, Stereo Gold Award, Chevron, Hallmark, etc.
I saw a first-pressing of the Beatles Please Please Me LP on eBay not long ago with its original price-sticker on it, and iirc the price on the sticker inflated to about £36 in today's money. It was the mono version, so presumably the stereo version would have cost even more. We've never had it so good, as a someone remotely famous once said.
I saw a first-pressing of the Beatles Please Please Me LP on eBay not long ago with its original price-sticker on it, and iirc the price on the sticker inflated to about £36 in today's money. It was the mono version, so presumably the stereo version would have cost even more. We've never had it so good, as a someone remotely famous once said.
Alears said:
True - TBH it's the inconsistency of prices for the same albums. I've seen run-of-the mill stuff like, by that I mean popular, range anything between £5-£12 for a new unopened cd, while records *new* are between £8.00 - £36.00. I know like all businesses prices can vary but to that degree?
I have no problem with the pricing whatsoever!
One of my recent purahses was the Editors new Album on 2 x 200g with red book CD for £17.99 - that is not expensive PP its a bragain!
One of my recent purahses was the Editors new Album on 2 x 200g with red book CD for £17.99 - that is not expensive PP its a bragain!
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