Recommend a sub for my marantz pm6005

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Didn't you like the answers you got in your other threads?

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/recommend-a-small-but-good-sub-for-my-marantz-pm6005-and-q-acoustics-concept-20

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/how-to-connect-paradigm-sub-8-to-my-marantz-pm6005

Why not do some searching yourself if you don't like the answers you got?

I'd refine the parameters to a specific price range rather than just "not expensive" and for "work with PM6005" I'd start searching for subs with high level connection (also called high level input or speaker level input, etc.).

Personally my first preference would probably be to get some bigger speakers, maybe some floorstanders like Monitor Audio's BX5 which I think sound good with Marantz's lower budget ranges.

Best of luck.
 

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Yes yes, i know guys.

I just wanted some more answers subs to choose from. Maybe a new thread could generate that.. Maybe not.
 

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You already had multiple threads going where it was discussed and you were given recommendations. You could've just bumped one of them (i.e. posted in it to bring it to the top of the list again).

Would you do the same thing in real life? Ask someone ask the same question multiple times even though you've already been given answers?

How about some of these?

http://www.whathifi.com/review/rel-acoustics-t-zero

http://velodyne.com/eq-max-8.html

http://www.whathifi.com/review/wharfedale-powercube-spc-10

http://www.richersounds.com/product/subwoofers/mordaunt-short/alumni-9/mord-alumni9-blk

Or better yet, Q acoustics to go with your q acoustics speakers

http://www.richersounds.com/product/subwoofers/q-acoustics/2070i/qaco-2070i-graph

Now go have a listen to some in store, look up some reviews, etc.
 

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Sorry to jump in. Quick question: how would you connect the PM6005 with a subwoofer? it does not have a pre out or a subwoofer output
 

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dakchi said:
Sorry to jump in. Quick question: how would you connect the PM6005 with a subwoofer? it does not have a pre out or a subwoofer output

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Hmm, That didn`t work,tried to post a diagram,Oh well go here http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/gemini_manual.pdf and look at page 3 and it shows you how to connect a sub with a high level input to your amp.
 

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basshound said:
Hmm, That didn`t work,tried to post a diagram,Oh well go here http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/gemini_manual.pdf and look at page 3 and it shows you how to connect a sub with a high level input to your amp.

Thank you basshound. Where can I find a cable for the high level input? I have a B&W PV1

I use the subwoofer with my AV amp which has a pre out. Would it be easier (better?) to connect the AV amp with the the hifi amp through the preout?
 

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In the box in the attic ?

"Inputs Stereo Line In (2x RCA Phono)
Speaker Level In
(5m cable supplied)"

It would not be easier , the supplied cable would have three cores proberly , L/R/G you connect these to the speaker terminals then adjust the gain and xover to match your speakers but this would remove your sub as a LFE channel and use it on the low freqs on your main stereo speakers only , so x.1 to x.0 no subwoofer on your amp set fronts as large .

James
 

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JamesMellor said:
In the box in the attic ?

"Inputs Stereo Line In (2x RCA Phono)
Speaker Level In
(5m cable supplied)"

It would not be easier , the supplied cable would have three cores proberly , L/R/G you connect these to the speaker terminals then adjust the gain and xover to match your speakers but this would remove your sub as a LFE channel and use it on the low freqs on your main stereo speakers only , so x.1 to x.0 no subwoofer on your amp set fronts as large .

James

Thank you for the info James. I think that I lost this cable. I have to buy a new one. I can't find it anywhere in the internet :cry:
 

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dakchi said:
basshound said:
Hmm, That didn`t work,tried to post a diagram,Oh well go here http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/gemini_manual.pdf and look at page 3 and it shows you how to connect a sub with a high level input to your amp.

Thank you basshound. Where can I find a cable for the high level input? I have a B&W PV1

I use the subwoofer with my AV amp which has a pre out. Would it be easier (better?) to connect the AV amp with the the hifi amp through the preout?

you use speaker cables for the high level connection. That's why it is also called a speaker level connection.
 

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dakchi said:
JamesMellor said:
In the box in the attic ?

"Inputs Stereo Line In (2x RCA Phono)
Speaker Level In
(5m cable supplied)"

It would not be easier , the supplied cable would have three cores proberly , L/R/G you connect these to the speaker terminals then adjust the gain and xover to match your speakers but this would remove your sub as a LFE channel and use it on the low freqs on your main stereo speakers only , so x.1 to x.0 no subwoofer on your amp set fronts as large .

James

Thank you for the info James. I think that I lost this cable. I have to buy a new one. I can't find it anywhere in the internet :cry:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neutrik-Speakon-High-Level-Lead-for-REL-MJ-Subwoofer-/370663550208?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item564d44ed00
 

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No worries , as for the missing cable once the new one arrives I'm sure some one will say " thats the same as the one in the ..... " <S>

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basshound said:
dakchi said:
JamesMellor said:
In the box in the attic ?

"Inputs Stereo Line In (2x RCA Phono)
Speaker Level In
(5m cable supplied)"

It would not be easier , the supplied cable would have three cores proberly , L/R/G you connect these to the speaker terminals then adjust the gain and xover to match your speakers but this would remove your sub as a LFE channel and use it on the low freqs on your main stereo speakers only , so x.1 to x.0 no subwoofer on your amp set fronts as large .

James

Thank you for the info James. I think that I lost this cable. I have to buy a new one. I can't find it anywhere in the internet :cry:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neutrik-Speakon-High-Level-Lead-for-REL-MJ-Subwoofer-/370663550208?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item564d44ed00

Thank you but this is for REL sub. I have a B&W PV1
 

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