Recent/new turntable owners - your updates

margetti

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There's a few of us that have recently discovered - or re-discovered, the magic of vinyl. How's it going? Any tips, suggestions, or simply a post on how much you're loving vinyl?

Tonight I've put up a diy turntable wall shelf. It has worked an absolute treat (and diy certainly ain't my forte!)

I knew the Systemdek was going to have problems on the rack with wooden flooring, but never anticipated how bad it would be. Didn't help that the floor boards in front of the rack were particularly bad - stepping away from putting a new record on was fraught with the danger of the arm jumping as I stepped away. Now I can literally jump up and down in front of the turntable and it doesn't bat an eyelid.

Now just looking forward to a couple of ebay purchased lp's to arrive - fingers crossed they'll arrive tomorrow in time for the long weekend.
 
put all my hifi stuff on one of them black glass tv stands under the stairs and ran the cable to the speakers. sounds better and the dust is not as bad. I only bought a clearnace genie2 but looking it. I need to wait till pay day which is the 6th and then buying a record brush,cork mat and few vinyl of ebay. Really want neil young young (on the beach lp but cant find it cheap anywhere).
 
Same position really, buying new and used vinyl on ebay. haven't really got anything more to do with the Rega at the moment, although arm mods may come next year but in no rush. Luckily I have concrete floors so I do not have to worry about footfalls sending the cartridge on a merry dance! so I can put all my bits on one rack.
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Having said that I am on the look out for another phono stage along the lines of a naim stageline but secondhand places are quite high compared to new so we will see.............
 
I was looking at the stageline to replace my pro-ject phono box but the cost is prohibitive (£350 with cable new) so sticking with it at moment. To be honest I'm more than happy with my set-up now so in no rush.

I've gone from the usual seperates set up i.e amp/cd/tuner/dac/cassette(!)/TT to just a Uniti & Phono amp & TT. At present I'm still using my old 5 shelf hi-fi stand that looks a bit bare now, so I'm probably going to look for something more suitable in the future.

I encountered the same problems as Margetti initially with my Systemdek and the arm jumping around but once I'd levelled it all off and reset everything the problem is not as bad, but still there if I'm not careful. I was looking at a dedicated turntable shelf but I've not found one yet that would look good in my front room.

As mentioned previously I took off the really old A & R P77 cartridge that the TT came with and replaced it with my Ortofon 2M Red and it is sounding sweet.

So other than perhaps getting myself a more suitable stand I'm happy with everything now. I had a stack of over 500 LP's lying under the stairs so having great fun at the moment playing lots of them. Also, if you get a chance get to one of the record fairs if you can. The last one I went to in Manchester had loads of good stuff, most of which was at really good prices (i.e. 4 for £10 etc). Since getting back into vinyl I've treated myself to a couple of new audiophile quality 180gm LP's (Pink Floyd's DSOTM and Steven Wilson's Insurgentes) , very good but not cheap. I've been amazed just how good my really old 70's LP still sound (pops and crackles and all) considering how badly I looked after them in the past. With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat.

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DIB:
I was looking at the stageline to replace my pro-ject phono box but the cost is prohibitive (£350 with cable new) so sticking with it at moment. To be honest I'm more than happy with my set-up now so in no rush.

I've gone from the usual seperates set up i.e amp/cd/tuner/dac/cassette(!)/TT to just a Uniti & Phono amp & TT. At present I'm still using my old 5 shelf hi-fi stand that looks a bit bare now, so I'm probably going to look for something more suitable in the future.

I encountered the same problems as Margetti initially with my Systemdek and the arm jumping around but once I'd levelled it all off and reset everything the problem is not as bad, but still there if I'm not careful. I was looking at a dedicated turntable shelf but I've not found one yet that would look good in my front room.

As mentioned previously I took off the really old A & R P77 cartridge that the TT came with and replaced it with my Ortofon 2M Red and it is sounding sweet.

So other than perhaps getting myself a more suitable stand I'm happy with everything now. I had a stack of over 500 LP's lying under the stairs so having great fun at the moment playing lots of them. Also, if you get a chance get to one of the record fairs if you can. The last one I went to in Manchester had loads of good stuff, most of which was at really good prices (i.e. 4 for £10 etc). Since getting back into vinyl I've treated myself to a couple of new audiophile quality 180gm LP's (Pink Floyd's DSOTM and Steven Wilson's Insurgentes) , very good but not cheap. I've been amazed just how good my really old 70's LP still sound (pops and crackles and all) considering how badly I looked after them in the past. With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat.

Yes bought one of those myself, could not believe how much rubbish was in those grooves! Always hypnotised by those heavyweight vinyls but not good for the wallet
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DIB:
I encountered the same problems as Margetti initially with my Systemdek and the arm jumping around but once I'd levelled it all off and reset everything the problem is not as bad, but still there if I'm not careful. I was looking at a dedicated turntable shelf but I've not found one yet that would look good in my front room.

I know what you mean about turntable shelves and aesthetics - luckily I have an understanding OH! That said, the diy solution doesn't look too bad - fits in quite nicely, except for the support brackets which aren't particularly pretty, but are mostly hidden by the rest of the equipment on the rack.

Was initially just happy that the shelf had resolved the dancing needle problem, but a further listen last night demonstrated a clear jump in sound quality - would thoroughly recommend it when you do find one that fits in with the decor.

DIB:

I had a stack of over 500 LP's lying under the stairs so having great fun at the moment playing lots of them.

Heaven! That's what got me back into vinyl - wanting to play the 20 or so LP's that I've managed to hang on to for over 20 years. Hence buying the Debut for £30 just over a year ago. The Systemdek has obviously taken things to a whole new level
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DIB:

With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat..

Have heard so many differing opinions on record cleaning - should you, shouldn't you etc. Two recommendations here for this, so that's now on the shopping list - have a few of those old records that could really do with a clean!
 
Sat behind me are 4 boxes containing a VPI Super Scout Master! I took delivery on wednesday but have a day at home to do some 'paper work' but not sure how far i'm going to get with that!
I've had a quick peep and it's a large table nearly 22''x14'' and may have to do some rearranging especially with the SDS Drive unit which is the size of a small amp itself!
I also took a delivery of a new Dynavector cartridge XX2 MK2. Wow! This is one serious cartridge i've never seen a cantilever and tip so fine (no not that way!) it's an absolute work of art.
Talking about it now i cant wait to get this up and running but i really need to get a cover for it as my 2 kids are pretty lively (like most) and could easily trash it whilst playing around. Ouch!
Now on with the paper work.......
 
My resurgent interest in vinyl has been very rapid over the past 2 months. In chronogical order:

Saw a modified and beautifully restored AR in the for sale column of a local hi-fi mag. Purchased immediately for a song, cheap cartridge included in the price.

Took the AR to my local t/table guru to fit a new Rega RB251 arm.

Bought a Parasound phonostage, also advertised in the same mag.

Listened for a couple of weeks, not totally satisfied with the sound, very laid back and lacking in detail. No bass to speak of.

T/table guru suggested I upgrade the stub and counterweight of the Rega arm to an Origin Live.

Next upgrade OL stub and counterweight. Sounded much, much better, especially the bass. Still not totally convinced, so looked at options of changing cartridge as suggested by another dealer.

Ortofon 2M Red installed by dealer. Sounds absoultely brilliant now. All the details that were previously missing have suddenly come to the fore. Bass is deep and taut, high frequencies clear and detailed.

Finally very happy with sound and absolutely loving vinyl again! Possible future upgrade might be a rewiring of the arm.
 
margetti:
DIB:

With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat..

Have heard so many differing opinions on record cleaning - should you, shouldn't you etc. Two recommendations here for this, so that's now on the shopping list - have a few of those old records that could really do with a clean!

I think you can pick them up now for under £40 so its not that hugely expensive, so its well worth it.

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margetti:DIB:
With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat..
Have heard so many differing opinions on record cleaning - should you, shouldn't you etc. Two recommendations here for this, so that's now on the shopping list - have a few of those old records that could really do with a clean!

Can't say I've ever heard anyone suggest you shouldn't clean records, I got an original Disco Antistat for 3 quid, it's brilliant, you can't go wrong really.
 
I'm a few weeks in now with my Systemdek IIX900/RB250. I'm such a happy man. After being away from vinyl for over 8 years it's great to be back!

Trouble is I have been funding my turntable purchase through building up my paypal account and am now trying to get a cartridge but I keep emptying my account on buying records off ebay!! No a great problem I suppose! lol

Margetti, I have used a target TTW1 wall shelf twice in two different properties and found it to be amazing. The results I got were astonishing and for a shelf that used to retail at about £80 it was a great upgrade. I have seen them crop up on ebay and usually go for about £40. In my opinion a real bargain! The wooden shelf is spiked for extra isolation and makes it easy to adjust the level. Very useful.

Anyway must go and list some stuff on ebay so that I can get my new cartridge!!
 
shooter69:Sat behind me are 4 boxes containing a VPI Super Scout Master! I took delivery on wednesday but have a day at home to do some 'paper work' but not sure how far i'm going to get with that!
I've had a quick peep and it's a large table nearly 22''x14'' and may have to do some rearranging especially with the SDS Drive unit which is the size of a small amp itself!
I also took a delivery of a new Dynavector cartridge XX2 MK2. Wow! This is one serious cartridge i've never seen a cantilever and tip so fine (no not that way!) it's an absolute work of art.
Talking about it now i cant wait to get this up and running but i really need to get a cover for it as my 2 kids are pretty lively (like most) and could easily trash it whilst playing around. Ouch!
Now on with the paper work.......

Oh! now you're just showing off!!!
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the_lhc:margetti:DIB:
With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat..
Have heard so many differing opinions on record cleaning - should you, shouldn't you etc. Two recommendations here for this, so that's now on the shopping list - have a few of those old records that could really do with a clean!

Can't say I've ever heard anyone suggest you shouldn't clean records, I got an original Disco Antistat for 3 quid, it's brilliant, you can't go wrong really.

3 quid! What a bargain, glad mine was a birthday present
 
mitch65:
shooter69:Sat behind me are 4 boxes containing a VPI Super Scout Master! I took delivery on wednesday but have a day at home to do some 'paper work' but not sure how far i'm going to get with that!
I've had a quick peep and it's a large table nearly 22''x14'' and may have to do some rearranging especially with the SDS Drive unit which is the size of a small amp itself!
I also took a delivery of a new Dynavector cartridge XX2 MK2. Wow! This is one serious cartridge i've never seen a cantilever and tip so fine (no not that way!) it's an absolute work of art.
Talking about it now i cant wait to get this up and running but i really need to get a cover for it as my 2 kids are pretty lively (like most) and could easily trash it whilst playing around. Ouch!
Now on with the paper work.......

Oh! now you're just showing off!!!
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Absolutely and i'm trying to upload the pics but i cant 🙁

Hopefully someone will help me get them up as i'm taking pic's as i go through the build. At the moment i'm putting the cart onto the arm.

Cheer's.
 
shooter69:mitch65:
shooter69:Sat behind me are 4 boxes containing a VPI Super Scout Master! I took delivery on wednesday but have a day at home to do some 'paper work' but not sure how far i'm going to get with that!
I've had a quick peep and it's a large table nearly 22''x14'' and may have to do some rearranging especially with the SDS Drive unit which is the size of a small amp itself!
I also took a delivery of a new Dynavector cartridge XX2 MK2. Wow! This is one serious cartridge i've never seen a cantilever and tip so fine (no not that way!) it's an absolute work of art.
Talking about it now i cant wait to get this up and running but i really need to get a cover for it as my 2 kids are pretty lively (like most) and could easily trash it whilst playing around. Ouch!
Now on with the paper work.......

Oh! now you're just showing off!!!
emotion-5.gif


Absolutely and i'm trying to upload the pics but i cant 🙁

Hopefully someone will help me get them up as i'm taking pic's as i go through the build. At the moment i'm putting the cart onto the arm.

Cheer's.

Have always had to have a chuckle with people taking upteen close-up photos of their cartridges, but having just googled the XX2 I'd have to say I'd getting the camera out myself if I had one! Gorgeous! (as far as cartidges go
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smuggs:put all my hifi stuff on one of them black glass tv stands under the stairs and ran the cable to the speakers. sounds better and the dust is not as bad. I only bought a clearnace genie2 but looking it. I need to wait till pay day which is the 6th and then buying a record brush,cork mat and few vinyl of ebay. Really want neil young young (on the beach lp but cant find it cheap anywhere).

I've got an original copy of NY's On The Beach, and it's a lovely sound on vinyl. That said, the remastered CD from a few years back isn't bad at all, but you probably knew that already.

Neil's oft-mentioned audiophilia shines through in a scuzzy, druggy lo-fi production. My current favourite Neil album is Time Fades Away. Utterly crowd-unfriendly live album. Off-kilter and quintessential non-acoustic Neil.

Vinyl playback-wise, I've just purchased a record clamp in an attempt to tame some of my more warped discs, and I've got to say I wish I'd done it sooner. Great results. But what's this??? Can non-warped records possibly sound better with the clamp on too? So it seems or am I once more hearing things, if you know what I mean?
 
charlie im going to buy a stanton brush £9 and a cork mat£12 there off ebay same dealer breand new. the cork mat is just to try and stop a little dust on the under-side mat.

i really want to get a record clap can you give me a link to the one you have bought.

i have only listen to that neil young album on spotify and love it. Im making a 300 or list in may of vinyl i want then come june car boots/ebay will be hammered lol.
 
Well, I got back into vinyl as well. Sold my Thorens TD160 and bought a Genie 3, which actually sounded that much better. I really love the TT (listening to Tchaikovsky right now), although I have to admit that I shuffled amp and speakers as well, so not a fair comparison. The set up right now: Genie 3 - Pioneer SA-506 - Elac CL 82 MKII. Excellent. Oh, and a major upgrade to my sound: a Tonar Nostatic brush.

Jack
 
smuggs:
charlie im going to buy a stanton brush £9 and a cork mat£12 there off ebay same dealer breand new. the cork mat is just to try and stop a little dust on the under-side mat.

i really want to get a record clap can you give me a link to the one you have bought.

i have only listen to that neil young album on spotify and love it. Im making a 300 or list in may of vinyl i want then come june car boots/ebay will be hammered lol.

Smuggs, the clamp I've just bought is the Michell Engineering one, from Analogue Seduction (£25).

Hope you enjoy compiling your list of 300.
 
VPI Super Scout Master.

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The set up was pretty easy really but getting it level was more problematic as the floor runs front to back and left to right. On top of that the bench itself has a reverse camber front to back that i had to get over. The SSM allows three full rotations of the feet to level it off but that wasn't enough! I had to use some solid coasters with cork bases and putt them under the back of the bench. That sorted the the bench front to back and some how helped it left to right as well. Not sure how but it did and i was able to get the table level after that. The drive unit was a problem as it has no adjustment for levelling. I had to unscrew the rubber feet and place washers i acquired from the local hardware store between the main drive unit and the rubber feet. It worked a treat and i set it up with 1/2 inch between chassis and motor.
Fitting the four drive belts was next and was very simple. Their was two small belts, one for each motor that went on first. I put the belt over motor and rolled it onto the flywheel and used the grooves on the flywheel to to get the positioning. Then put the larger belts around the platter onto the flywheel and levelled them off by turning the flywheel by hand.
Next job was to fit the Dynavector XX2-MK2 cartridge on to the arm. The arm comes ready for use so nothing had to be done their. I laid the arm down on foam that was supplied and fitted the cart using screws supplied and pushed the wires onto the cart. This was quite nerve racking as one slip could of trashed the cantilever!
Fitting the arm was simple as the pivot point comes fitted. I removed the protective cover from the pivot point and placed the arm in it.
To align the arm i used the supplied jig. This was placed on the spindle and adjusted with screws up to the pivot point. On the jig is a box with a dot in the middle were the stylus should be. Adjustments should be made to the cartridge with the protective cover off! This was also a delicate job which i found quite difficult.
Adjusting the Anti-Skating was easy. I connected the tone arm wire to the junction box then adjusted the counter weight so the arm hovered above the mount. By gently tapping the arm it swings out over the platter and returns as the wire acts as the Anti-Skate mechanism. Sweet.
The tracking force was set with digital scales. The optimum setting for the cartridge is 1.8 to 2.2 grams and should be set to the higher side.I managed to get 2.094 as shown.

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Finally to complete the arm set up the Azimuth was set by using the supplied rod placed on the headshell and adjusted by turning the ring at the bass of the arm until the headshell is parallel to the record.
Thats it with the arm and ounce set up never needs adjustment, unless you move it!

Now to get power to the table. Plug the motor into the SDS drive. This controls the turntable speeds of 331/3, 45 and 78 rpm's but its not as simple as press the button and off you go. The speeds are set up on the Hertz frequency range (not sure why and someone may be able to answer this) and to do this VPI supply a Stroboscope Disc. This sits on the platter and for optimum speed setting you use a strobe light to set it all up! I haven't done this yet but i done some internet searching and found other users set the frequency at 60.30hz. This seems okay for 331/3 but i will eventually source a strobe and set it up properly!

I'm using the Dynavector P-75 phono stage set in Phono Enhancer mode as suggested and seems to be a good match for the cartridge.

I've had a good 20hrs of listening so the cartridge should be broken in by now. It certainly opened up after 7hrs and bass definition was very good after 9hrs. 20hrs or so was recommended for the break in so more or less there really and it sound very good indeed and much better than CD playback as pointed out by the better half!! "We'll go back to buying records then" she said and were duly off to London today on a record spree.......
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Well my techie SL1200 is holding its own. Rb301 is installed and all set up as best as I can. The Goldring 2100 is just about run in along with the VLPS phono stage. Now all I need is something to put it. Im having to restock my vniyl collection...very slowly at the mo due to the fact that about 6 yrs ago I gave it all away.....So to date I have about 10 LPs and ideas for a few more but its going to be a slow process.....
 
DIB:margetti:
DIB:

With this is mind I did buy a Knosti Disco Antistat record cleaning machine a while back that works really well and cleans up your LP's a treat..

Have heard so many differing opinions on record cleaning - should you, shouldn't you etc. Two recommendations here for this, so that's now on the shopping list - have a few of those old records that could really do with a clean!

I think you can pick them up now for under £40 so its not that hugely expensive, so its well worth it.

After a good search through Google, found a hi-fi dealer just up the road from work selling them for £40 (most other results came back at £49.99 including ebay). So now have said kit in my possession!
 
I did feel like a bit of a cheap-skate buying my £40 cleaning kit for my car boot £1 a pop records, whilst sat next to a pair of these though...

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