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Been looking for a 5.1 system that can handle hd audio that comes from the ps3 and xbox360. Was looking at amps and speakers but they all come out that much more! my budget is £600, for that i need at least 2 hdmi in, HD audio, 1080p resolution....

Basically everything you need for the full HD experience audio and picture wise!! i watch alot of blurays and play alot of full hd games so definitely need to step up!! Also a wireless steup won't go a miss or is the quality lacking

Can anyone help me with suggestions of either all in one or amp and speakers for that price limit! Considering that it needs to last me about 3 years and have hd audio!

Thanks
 
3 years ehy? That's quite a small lifetime!

What you're looking for is an AV Reciever and a speaker package. A standard home theatre kit won't cut it as they tend to only have the option of an additional optical input.

One of the most important things to ensure is that the reciever is capable
of outputting HD sound, such as DTS-HD - introduced with hdmi1.3. Just because a reciever has a
hdmi cable doesn't mean it can output true HD sound. I would recommend an Onkyo, Denon and maybe a Sony reciever (although I know nothing about the ratings of the sony range) -- all of which can be had for around £300 nowadays - or £200 if bought from ebay.

When I was looking for a relatively cheap AV reciever I went for the Onkyo 605, since updated by the 606 and then the 607. All of which will provide the same quality of sound (with maybe a few watts here and there) but the video upscaling is improved - therefore not an issue in your case, as you have HD sources which can do all the image processing.

At the time the 605 was on par with the Denon AVR1610, if I remember correctly - do a little research. With a budget of £600 you could get a speaker package such as:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/1010i-5.1/qaco-1010i-5.1-pack

-- if you were after a more discrete package then consider something like the Mordaunt Short Alumni package (although if bought new will cost a tad more than you have to spend)

Problem I always face is, I want the absolute best I can get for my money, so going alittle over-budget is often the case or reverting to secondhand stuff...

Remember some technology, such as speakers will barely deteriorate or become outdated with time. A greater speaker ten years ago is still going to be a great speaker today. The same cannot be said for a television that was considered great ten years ago. Digital technology advances an awful lot quicker.
 
This looks good the speaker system, is there any review of it?? have you had personel experience with this system??

also i never knew thought of mix matching speaker systems!! any other suggestion that can be really good for blu-ray and games from ps3 and xbox 360??
 
nevos2005:This looks good the speaker system, is there any review of it?? have you had personel experience with this system??

Not personal experience, but a few people on the forums have commented on it and found it good (see here to get you started).

SnowyJohn:Note: The SR576 doesn't accept true HD sound.

True, but it does accept Linear PCM so is fine for use with the PS3 (and any Blu-Ray player with onboard decoding for both).
 
I always think the same way snowyjohn, thats why it has taken me this long to set a realistic budget!!

I mean i have always liked onkyo, i was thinking about getting the 876 at one point but then decided to wait for the 877 or 1007! I do want something with this level of power but at the cheapest cost! but at the end of the day i realised that HD audio was more important than power!!

Also i saw that the 576 didn't have HD audio and i think that it is important that it was it on the receiver especially with Xbox360 games etc...
 
Is that so?? So exactly the same sound can be achieved?

I always thought the reciever needed the ability to output HD formats. Could you just quickly put me right - so I know for sure.
 
just looking at the ONKYO HTX22HD 5.1 and it already has connection at the back!! so in other words i would only have to buy this surround sound system and get full 5.1 HD sound or is a receiver still needed??
 
SnowyJohn:Is that so?? So exactly the same sound can be achieved?

I always thought the reciever needed the ability to output HD formats. Could you just quickly put me right - so I know for sure.

In theory, the same sound is achieved. Basically, with the older PS3 i.e. the non-slim version, your only option for HD audio is for it to be decoded onboard and sent to the receiver as LPCM. Many Blu-Ray players (though certainly not all) also come with decoders for both Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio to allow you to do the same. With this option, the receiver doesn't require any of the decoders onboard as the signal has already been decoded. With the new slim PS3 and virtually all other Blu-Ray players, you also have the option of bitstreaming the audio (or sending it natively) and the receiver then decodes - this is when you require the decoders within the receiver. Whichever way you do it, the signal ends up as LPCM, it's just a question of whether this decoding is done within the player or receiver.

Some people claim that it's better to do the decoding on the player, others claim it's better to be done at the receiver. Either way, you're still getting HD audio.
 
nevos2005:just looking at the ONKYO HTX22HD 5.1 and it already has connection at the back!! so in other words i would only have to buy this surround sound system and get full 5.1 HD sound or is a receiver still needed??

The Onkyo HTX22HD is an all-in-one unit, it's an amp and speakers combined so no need for a separate receiver.
 
Well for £600 look at getting a 'budget reciever', as it probably need updating in a few years anyway. I would also stretch my budget for great speakers.

Also, regarding power... Depending on your situation you may have neighbours (or a girlfriend) which really restrict listening. I would by no means suggest that more power means a better system or sound. This is what I'm currently using for outputting movies (and the occasional "bang bang", as the other puts it, for games);

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000VIC1ZS/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1258723476&sr=8-1

A year or two old, but definately up to the job with a small(ish) budget.
 
With a panasonic system you may also get an upgrade to blu ray play back thrown in for your money...... Thats something that the WHF team will need to confirm mind you.

Dont forget to budget for cables when buying separates.
 
nevos2005:Also i saw that the 576 didn't have HD audio and i think that it is important that it was it on the receiver especially with Xbox360 games etc...

Not so - take a look at my explanation above. The Xbox 360 doesn't output HD audio, the best you'll get with Xbox 360 games is standard Dolby Digital and there's not an AV receiver available now that won't decode this.
 
I got it. I've been thinking about purchasing the slimline model for a second room.. I am now curious as to whether the amp would decode audio better than my original 60gb.

Thanks for the explanation Prof.
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SnowyJohn:Thanks for the explanation Prof.
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No worries!

Gander:No games are in HD sound eh prof.

True at the moment, but I wouldn't preclude the possibility on the PS3. The Xbox 360 can't do it though.
 
So if you had the choice, would you go for the sony receiver + awesome speakers or the onkyo all in one system mentioned above? note that i do want the best sound possible at this price range!!
 
I'd definately go for the seperates. When investing large sums of money I'd go for a system of seperates everytime, for performance, versatility and longevity.

But if price is the main issue -- then an all-in-one may be the answer.
 
Another point worth mentioning...

If you go down the seperate route, you needn't buy all 6 speakers at once. Nor do they need to be the same make - just need to 'gel' well. Buying the same make/model just makes the process easier as they were designed to operate alongside one another. You could get 4 cracking bookshelves to start with, buy a centre... in due time, by two nice floorstanders and you've got a 7.0... add sub if more bass is required.
 
best thing to do is invest some time in auditioning and then you can make up your mind up on which way to go, how much more you can stretch your budget and what the best deals are as you can do some horse trading with dealers, get them to price match etc etc.
 
very interesting comments i think i am back to the stage where a seperate system is going to be the best option!

This brings on the next question of whether wireless sound is worth the buy?? and if so which ones to go for!! i already have soo many wires in my small living room so wireless would help alot in keeping the place clean!

My budget is limited to £600 but at the end of the day going over won't be the end of the world!! I just want something that others have found to be the best at this price point, right now i only have tv sound so anything will be a step up but i want to make sure it lasts me 3years at least before i consider upgrading to higher and probably more expensive options
 
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