Tear Drop:drummerman:
chunky70:It does have a very analogue sound,much smoother than my cambridge.Perhaps they were trying to get vinyl sound from cd replay.
It's probably called distortion or jitter. Smears detail for that smoother sound. A deviation from accuracy but if you prefer to hear the manufacturers version of recordings rather than whats on the disc I won't argue with you.
Seriously now, stop contributing to this thread if you really have no idea what you are talking about...digital distortion/jitter giving a 'smoother' sound? Have you any idea how the Stable Platter Mechanism works compared to a standard mech, and the implications that has for distortion levels? If so, can you explain why that would lead to increased distortion? Seriously, if you have the answers I would love to learn - I'm open minded and will take what you have you say on board if you can explain. If not, stop trolling.
I was tired, so logged off last nite. Just as well, reading your confrontational reply but hey, why change a habit tear drop eh?
If you care to read through my previous postings in this thread rather than just to try how else you could appear aggressive you will probably find that I said that players such as the pio and the afromentioned marantzes often suffered from excessively high jitter, something that was'nt really totally understud at the time by the various makers of cdp's. Trichord, with their clock mods and other changes to the output stage where, I believe, one of the first to tackle this specific problem. I might be wrong and there where others (Meridian for one) but when I compared the bog standard pioneer (stable platter) with the trichord modified version, the Genesis, there was a marked improvement in clarity etc. Enough for me to buy it. I previously owned a Marantz CD63 KI (forgot the exact model but I think it was that one) and it too, sounded very smooth, almost etheral compared to the Genesis. I later read that these players (early marantzes) also suffered from excessively high jitter which was partly to blame (praise for some) for the sound.
Low jitter is now a central element of good digital engineering by most manufacturers. It is also included in many technical reviews and often cited as an important element to perceived sound. Perhaps people with in-depth knowledge of the issue such as Arcam/AVI or CA could reply and clarify its importance (or lack of it) better than I can.
I think I also said that it entirely possible to use the pios as transport but that reliability and spares may be an issue. I did not comment on whether it would be a good transport or not. What I did however tried to imply was that modern players now reached a standard which even very expensive ones in the early/mid nineties probably could'nt so from that point of view I can't see a reason to use a pio stable platter player these days other than as transport for a separate DAC and even then I'd find it a questionable decision but thats simply my opinion only on the difference transports make to sound. I would'nt expect everyone to agree with me on that.
Hope that clarifies my contribution (trolling
) to this thread but I'm sure you'll find another excuse to annoy. Happy sunday budd.