pioneer or denon

[pete.g]

I am looking to upgrade my amp and i am torn between the Pioneer VSX1019 and the Denon AVR2310. I have read some great reviews about the Denon but the Pioneer appeals because i am using a pioneer blu ray and a PDPLX5090 Kuro plasma. Has anyone got the pioneer? I really cant make up my mind on this so any help would be appreciated.

 

[Big Aura]

what speakers are you using? While matching to a BD player and telly is nice, the speaker / amp link-up is more critical!

 

[bigboss]

Totally agree with Big Aura. Even I was keen on a matching Pioneer receiver for my Kuro, until I heard the demo.....Pioneer receivers were too bright for my taste. It really depends on your speakers.

 

[pete.g]

thanks guys. i am using B+W 684's in front, 686's at the rear and a HTM62 in the centre. Also using an old Yamaha sub (which also needs upgrading)

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Bright Brigade

 

[Andrew Everard]

gel:Bright Brigade

Meaning?

 

[Big Aura]

surely this is the relevant calling card?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Andrew Everard:

gel:Bright Brigade

Meaning?

Pioneer amps are bright on the wrong speakers Frank Harvery Hi Fi said the other day

 

[Andrew Everard]

I love a nice Harvery - is this your first time at a Carvester?

But really just parroting others' opinions doesn't help very much...

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Andrew Everard:

I love a nice Harvery - is this your first time at a Carvester?

But really just parroting others' opinions doesn't help very much...

Appologies, I just thought that is what everyone say's when pioneer and bright get mentioned, it did not mean anything.

 

[gpi]

I am going through a Pioneer phase at the moment and now have two of their CD players on my rack, the older PD-S801 with its stable platter, upside down reading mechanism and a newer PD-D6-J SACD player. I wouldn't say they were especially bright-sounding and gpi say: one man's bright is another man's crystal clear. )

 

[pete.g]

while all the comments are very interesting (though confusing) i am still none the wiser

is the Pioneer too "bright" for my speakers? or is the Denon the safer option?

Thanks all

 

[Andrew Everard]

I would say not, but I would strongly suggest you listen before buying: one person's 'bright' is another's 'exciting'...

 

[Big Aura]

personally I liked my old Pioneer, and found it difficult to adjust to my Denon amp. It really depends on what you like. Bear in mind also, if you've got a room with lots of hard surfaces, the brighter amps tend to rattle around a bit, and likewise, if you're living in an overly cushioned space, maybe it'll be perfick. Have a listen to each - a great way to spend a Saturday morning!

 

[bigboss]

Demo the Pioneer, the Denon & maybe the Yamaha RX-V1065. They all sound different to one another. See which one suits you.

 

[Big Aura]

I'm currently tempted by http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/yamaha/rx-v3900.html?referredby=google-adwords&gclid=CImdjJu0254CFQuX2Aodtxh3JQ but telling myself no...

 

[bigboss]

Big Aura:I'm currently tempted by http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/yamaha/rx-v3900.html?referredby=google-adwords&gclid=CImdjJu0254CFQuX2Aodtxh3JQ but telling myself no...

This certainly is the bargain of the century!

 

[Anonymous]

My Pio 82 combined with the MA RX's doesn't sound "Bright" to me I am very happy with my lot

Sound's good, look's good, and well built, couldn't ask for more

But I have read the B&W's can be "Bright" with the Pio's

Horses and all that.

 

[bigboss]

MA Radius HD also sounded bright to me with Pioneer speakers. Yes, I have read this before that MA RX speakers don't sound bright with Pioneer, the RS series again can sound bright.

 

[pete.g]

thanks for the help guys. i have decided to get the Denon 2310. picking it up tomorrow