Philips 40PFL9704 vs Pioneer kuro pdp-lx5090

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Does the philips achieve a picture as good as the pioneer???

 

[Anonymous]

according to whfi it gets close , but with the kuro you wouldnt need a P.H.D in electronics to get a decent picture , motion , sd etc etc ....

 

[Deleted member 2457]

That picture on the front of the philips, what is that film?

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[The_Lhc]

gel:That picture on the front of the philips, what is that film?

Looks like Tim Burton's new version of Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass.

 

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the_lhc:

gel:That picture on the front of the philips, what is that film?

Looks like Tim Burton's new version of Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass.

Nice one, I meant to ask that the other day.

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[tvspecv]

the ambilight tech is it any good?

what other sizes will this model come in?

want something bigger

 

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tvspecv:

the ambilight tech is it any good?

what other sizes will this model come in?

want something bigger

Ambilight is fantastic I can confirm this as a very proud owner of a "high end" philips.

46 inches they do.

 

[tvspecv]

To small wanted a 55-inch

 

[D.J.KRIME]

I would hold my horses and wait to see just how the Kuro based Panasonic Plasmas proform.

 

[tvspecv]

led will win

 

[Deleted member 2457]

tvspecv:led will win

I think so too.

 

[TheHomeCinemaCentre]

There is a 52" and the 9704 is very close to the Pioneer. We have them both in store at the moment and although the Pioneer is stunning the 9704 delivers a very different kind of image.

Having spent a great deal of years impressed with plasma the way the Pioneer produces an image is my choice. That said as they are all gone it is not really much of a debate. The Philips is one of the very best screens available to buy today.

 

[Anonymous]

how much is the 52in philips though ?? £3000ish ?? with panasonic claiming a kuro equalling tv this year , id wait , it shouldnt cost as much , in fact it could be £2000ish , and have 3d ?? i know which one id spend my money on .....

 

[TheHomeCinemaCentre]

I dont know how you can say how you will spend your money when you haven't seen the finished product. I am sure the Panasonics will be very good but there is the possibility that they might not be.

 

[Anonymous]

hi , fair enough , i havnt of course seen one , but the v10 is not far off a kuro , according to many , and with its normal evolution , coupled with the kuro boffins tech , im confident the new pannys will be as good as the kuro , i cant see how they wouldnt be , they may even be better , and they will almost certainly be cheaper than the same sized 7404 ....

heres hoping.....

 

[ear]

good point maxfflin..I hope so. one more think, plasmas are said to have 100.000 hour duration against lcd's 60.000 hour...could this be true?

 

[Anonymous]

hi ear , im not sure about longevity , but even 60000 hrs should be enough for anyone ...

exciting times ahead in the tv world .....

 

[Anonymous]

In my experience, the 9704 was a hellish tv to set up. Just like every Philips. Only this one was worse because it kept having a blueish glow across the screen from all angles except if you were standing/sitting right in front of it. No I would not recommend it over the LX5090.

 

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gel:the_lhc:

gel:That picture on the front of the philips, what is that film?

Looks like Tim Burton's new version of Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass.

Nice one, I meant to ask that the other day.

Thanks

Can this be had on blu ray in this country? I just had a quick look around but could not find much?

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[professorhat]

Not even out in the cinemas yet fella.

 

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professorhat:

Not even out in the cinemas yet fella.

How were they watching it?

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[professorhat]

They weren't. The pictures on TVs in magazines are not photographed, they'll be carefully placed on there by a designer in a software package. Otherwise the picture would probably look pretty awful.

 

[TKratz]

kruum:In my experience, the 9704 was a hellish tv to set up. Just like every Philips. Only this one was worse because it kept having a blueish glow across the screen from all angles except if you were standing/sitting right in front of it. No I would not recommend it over the LX5090.

This is spot on and right to the point Kruum! A very thorough Danish review made the exact same comments. An English summary is actually available. I could be tempted to make a link, but that would be against the house rules I believe.

The blueish glow you talk about is due to a way too high colour temperature (around 11.000K instead of the target 6.500K). Gamma is way off as well, making shadow details poor to say the least! The screen produces excellent blacks, but what does that help when there are zero details in the dark scenes?

Picture settings can of course be adjusted, but as always on Philips this is very tricky, and no matter what you do, the end result will never be optimal (if of course your goal is to set up the screen according to international ISF standards).

This TV by no means come anywhere near the Pioneer on producing a picture that is true to the source. If this is your aim (and in my opinion it always should be) the Philips cannot be recommended over the Pioneer.

 

[bigboss]

gel:
How were they watching it?

 

[bigboss]

tvspecv:led will win

How can you say that? On the basis of the current "LED TVs" in the market, or a speculation about actual LED TVs that will appear sometime in the future?