PANASONIC TX-37LZD85 ........ Motion blurring on Blu Ray

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A few months ago i bought the PAN TX-37 LZD85 and a PAN DMP-BD30 Blu ray player for my bedroom., after reading your reviews in July.

I went for this tv as it was "FULL HD", "100Hz", and 24fps.... So i assumed it would be perfect to watch Blu ray films.

But it soon became clear that this was not the case.First Blu ray film i bought (CARS) looked great.... but when i started buying others, things started to go wrong.

No country for old men, and Casino Royal, i am experiencing pretty bad motion blurring. I contacted Panasonic, and the advice they gave me, was to turn 24p off at the tv. I have tried this, but it seems to spoil the whole HD affect of the film.

The motion blurring seems to be there all the time when 24p set on, and gets really bad if things move very quickly.......

Is this normal ? and has anyone else experienced this ? As i have bought 10 lu ral films now, and it is spoiling the whole experience

 

[Anonymous]

Do you mean judder (where the film appears to stutter and then jump a bit) or motion blur, where the fast movement is blurred.

24p is supposed to remove the first, but LCDs do suffer from motion blur with fast moving opjects and this is nothing to do with 24p Blurays as such.

 

[Anonymous]

No its the motion blurring....... and its not just on fast moving scenes....... if anybody moves across the screen, it appears on the edges, and is bad if the background is either trees and bushes, or vertical lines..... And have even noticed it on my new sky HD.

 

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I don't have a solution for you but I can tell you that this model TV can display Blu-ray without the symptoms you describe, I don't have this TV but know someone who does and I haven't seen any of those problems. The connected Blu-ray player was a Panasonic DMP BD55.

Panasonic were right to tell you to turn off the 24p film mode, most comments on forums have agreed this is the correct thing to do. Shown below is a comment from another website review of this Television

The Panasonic TX37LZD85 LCD HDTV can accept 24p Input and display it as such, meaing that no telecine judder will be visible from Blu-ray Discs outputting in this mode. While we're on the subject of 24p, it's worth discussing the "24p Film" option tucked away in the LCD television's "Setup" menu. This isn't a toggle for 24p Processing, but instead controls a Motion Interpolation mode which attempts to give 24fps Film content a more video-like look. Because film sources have 24 frames per second, creating new frames to boost the motion fluidity requires that the TV's video processor tracks the motion of objects in the input frames, and uses this data to creates new in-between ones

The biggest problem with this, though, is that films aren't that simple. Any sort of camera panning or complicated movement will confuse such a system and inevitabily create motion artefacts, unless the source features little to no complex motion to start with. For example, in Juno, there's a scene where the film's main character rides a bike down the street of her neighbourhood, with the camera trucking left. The movement of the camera and the spinning wheels on the bike mean that the bike actually distorts into blocks and even intermittently disappears. This in itself isn't a failing of the Panasonic TX37LZD85 , because any other HDTV with this option will create the same sort of problems. Needless to say, I recommend turning off this mode and watching films at their original frame rate!

 

[Anonymous]

Ok thanks for that reply...... Seems that the only option is to turn 24p off..... Cheers