Today by a dealer i have heard NAD C356 with C546 cdp, Creek Evo 2 amp and cdp, Arcam A18 with FMJ17 cdp. Music was from my favorite band Nightwish (with Tarja I wish i could say what was the best. I can't. It sounds all good. Litte different, but good. Maybe, jusy maybe the Creek was a bit brighter. The NAD maybe too overpowering for longtime listen and the Arcam too sounds good. Very difficult