New Denon Headphones

[quadpatch]

I know this is not super new news but has anyone else seen the new Denon headphone models? I'm curious what everyone else thinks becuase I can't help thinking it's a step in the wrong direction.

 

[fr0g]

I know this is not super new news but has anyone else seen the new Denon headphone models? I'm curious what everyone else thinks becuase I can't help thinking it's a step in the wrong direction.

In what way?

 

[eggontoast]

Yes I do, why a well respected designer of audiophile headphones is taking design aesthetics from
Monster Beats is beyond belief.

I for one won't be trading in my D5k's for the new models no matter how good they sound.

 

[idc]

But once you put them on, you can't see them anymore.

 

[fr0g]

Personally the only thing I don't like about Beats etc, is their supposed SQ shortfalls. As for looks, they are really nice. One reason I wouldn't ever buy a pair of Grado's - It's all personal taste of course, but I for one like the modern look.

Well done Denon, I hope they sound as good, and can we have an apt-x bluetooth model please?

 

[eggontoast]

But once you put them on, you can't see them anymore.

Very true, you just then look a tit instead ;-)

 

[fr0g]

 

[eggontoast]

That is a remarkable likeness

Personally the only thing I don't like about Beats etc, is their supposed SQ shortfalls. As for looks, they are really nice. One reason I wouldn't ever buy a pair of Grado's - It's all personal taste of course, but I for one like the modern look.

Well done Denon, I hope they sound as good, and can we have an apt-x bluetooth model please?

I don't disagree with the aesthetics of the Beats, lets face it that's what they are fashion accessories. I just don't understand why a respected Hi-Fi manufacturer would act like a bunch of sheep, they already have there own successful look

 

[fr0g]

I don't disagree with the aesthetics of the Beats, lets face it that's what they are fashion accessories. I just don't understand why a respected Hi-Fi manufacturer would act like a bunch of sheep, they already have there own successful look

Nobody ever won by standing still (apart from the annual Romanian standing still on a pole event). Everything evolves. Apple didn't get where they are by standing still in the design stakes.

I guess that they figure fans of the Denon sound won't desert them as they are more interested in the quality rather than get hot and bothered about small design details, but younger, fashion conscious teens might be drawn to the more modern looks?

Personally I like them. But my next set will be apt-x anyway.

 

[quadpatch]

If we're going to talk about Apple - nobody ever won by jumping on the bandwaggon either. This move from Denon feels like they don't have enough faith or confidence in their brand going in it's own direction so they chase someone elses because it works for them, it's weak. The main reason that I brought this up is that I think the designs are really bad but I am also not a fan of Apple controls either. My Vmoda came with 2 cables with mobile phone controls and both had horrific distortion connected to every piece of equipment that I had. Back to the design though, I will be curious of the sound quality but looks wise I think the D7000 is miles better.

 

[fr0g]

If we're going to talk about Apple - nobody ever won by jumping on the bandwaggon either. This move from Denon feels like they don't have enough faith or confidence in their brand going in it's own direction so they chase someone elses because it works for them, it's weak. The main reason that I brought this up is that I think the designs are really bad but I am also not a fan of Apple controls either. My Vmoda came with 2 cables with mobile phone controls and both had horrific distortion connected to every piece of equipment that I had. Back to the design though, I will be curious of the sound quality but looks wise I think the D7000 is miles better.

Well I'm no fan of Apple either,but to me these Denons look nothing like Monster beats, at all other than they have 2 ear pieces. In fact they look fairly unique. ie They aren't copying. Can't see the problem.

 

[Andrew Everard]

And of course those are just one model out of 30 or more:

/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/denonphones.jpg

 

[eggontoast]

And of course those are just one model out of 30 or more:

/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/denonphones.jpg

Maybe so, but the ones pictured (AH-D7100) by the OP are the replacements for the AH-D7000, the flagship model not some urban ear fashion rubbish.

 

[fr0g]

Maybe so, but the ones pictured (AH-D7100) by the OP are the replacements for the AH-D7000, the flagship model not some urban ear fashion rubbish.

and nor do they look anything like "some urban ear fashion rubbish".

Very stylish if you ask me. Although way out of my league pricewise.

 

[eggontoast]

and nor do they look anything like "some urban ear fashion rubbish".

Very stylish if you ask me. Although way out of my league pricewise.

Ah, I think we have come to the crunch.

I guess people who are spending that much on headphones don't expect a pair of Monster Beat clones.

 

[Andrew Everard]

not some urban ear fashion rubbish.

Ah, you mean the stuff that sells in huge quantities and allows companies to afford to make the high-end models?

 

[Big Chris]

and nor do they look anything like "some urban ear fashion rubbish".

Very stylish if you ask me. Although way out of my league pricewise.

Ah, I think we have come to the crunch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP1bXKBipg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sorry it's off topic, but I can't hear anyone say "the crunch" without thinking of this scene.....

 

[eggontoast]

Ah, you mean the stuff that sells in huge quantities and allows companies to afford to make the high-end models?

Sorry, I'm missing your point, it's still "urban ear fashion rubbish" no matter how many they sell.

 

[Lee H]

I guess people who are spending that much on headphones don't expect a pair of Monster Beat clones.

Not always the case. Personally, I think they look OK and I'm flexible on looks. It's in the eye of the beholder as they say (not sure who they are though) and whilst some won't like them, others will. You would never catch me buying anything with wood/wood effect to wear on my ears.

I agree with fr0g that the only thing I dislike about the Beats is the awful (IMO) SQ.

 

[fr0g]

I guess people who are spending that much on headphones don't expect a pair of Monster Beat clones.

Not always the case. Personally, I think they look OK and I'm flexible on looks. It's in the eye of the beholder as they say (not sure who they are though) and whilst some won't like them, others will. You would never catch me buying anything with wood/wood effect to wear on my ears.

I agree with fr0g that the only thing I dislike about the Beats is the awful (IMO) SQ.

...and the more expensive models are supposed to be pretty good too if not great VFM. They are also aimed at a certain type of person who wants a bass-heavy presentation. And on that they deliver.

 

[Andrew Everard]

Sorry, I'm missing your point

Indeed.

 

[dalethorn]

The headphone in the photo looks good. Smart use of plastic - keeping the design very trim and clean to make for better physical reliability and comfort. The actual finish in the hand should tell the final tale though. My new white AT M50's are all plastic, and while the details are very professional and precise, they do like like a very economical plastic headphone. So if the Denon pictured is expensive, the plastic had better look much better than the M50. Interestingly too, while my Shure 1440 uses the same plastic as the Shure 1840, the overall look and feel in the hand is appropriate to their respective prices, due to other factors. And it's not something I see in the photos.

Edit: While the Beats don't sound as good as they look, they don't look all that good either, up close.

 

[eggontoast]

So if the Denon pictured is expensive, the plastic had better look much better than the M50.

For £1200 they shouldn't have any plastic on them.

Sorry, I'm missing your point

Indeed.

I know manufacturers need to make and sell ship loads of cheap stuff to enable them to make there proper stuff, that's a fundamental business model. But there is no business sense in making your top end, audiophile models look like someone else's cheap plastic trash is there.

 

[quadpatch]

I know manufacturers need to make and sell ship loads of cheap stuff to enable them to make there proper stuff, that's a fundamental business model. But there is no business sense in making your top end, audiophile models look like someone else's cheap plastic trash is there.

This was my first thought - oh is that the expensive one, oh dear! I really can't tell. The Sennheiser HD800 doesn't have any wood on it but that screams high end when you look at it. This new Denon is really boring, not just boring actually I think it looks horrible. If I was paid to sit down all day and design headphones I would be a happy bunny and I would not be taking the brand in this direction.

Denon: you need to put a lot more thought in to your designs, this is not going to sell!! I'd put money on it.

 

[eggontoast]

OK

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nice

Getting exiting

Oh no a damp patch

WTF