Mr. E, Can you advise?

Thaiman

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Mr. E, from your past trips to Japan or Audio Show, Have you ever come across Furuyama speakers (FAL)? I am doing a research on "crossoverless" speakers and the disign of FAL cause my eyes. There are a very limited infomation on the net (unless you can read Japanese) and afaik there is a pair in UK that I can drive out and listen to but would like to know your thought first.

regards

TM
 
No need to despair. I'm currently still using 'x-over-less' speakers, only a resistor in-line to tweeter. A few quid of ebay and great value. Perhaps this is what you've always aspired to but did'nt know ... until today.

Glad to give you all the info but it'll cost you a couple of grand ...
 
MattSPL:

Hi Thaiman

What made you change from your Chapter Audio amplifiers? I just upgraded to them.

Thanks

Matt

Hi Matt

If you ever heard ASR Emitter II then you will understand, Chapter were great though, I would go as far as one of the most transparent electronics I have ever heard. So enjoyable no matter what I played through them, they deserve to be more sucessful than they are now.
 
Hi Thaiman, did you get the battery power supply for your ASR?

BTW - totally awesome bit of kit, I did a bit of reading up on it this morning.

And Matt, I am thoroughly jealous of you too, I heard your Chapter pre/power amps a while back, really, really impressed, sadly my pockets aren't quite deep enough - and most certainly not deep enough for Thaiman's ASR.
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Hi Thaiman, thanks for the reply.

The Emitter II is certainly some piece of kit. Am i right in thinking it is partially battery powered?

They have gone one step further than the chapters advanced Ac filtering which is one of the reasons for the Chapters transparency and probably one of the reasons you find the Emitter II even more appealing.

I have to say i love the Chapters and agree they deserve to be more successful.
 
yeb 4 big boxes and one of them is a battery supply which use with head unit.

DM, I would like to hear your thought on "no crossover" design speakers, I have found few brands that I might give them a go although I wouldn't want to get the full range horn as I think they look rather bad.
 
Thaiman:

yeb 4 big boxes and one of them is a battery supply which use with head unit.

DM, I would like to hear your thought on "no crossover" design speakers, I have found few brands that I might give them a go although I wouldn't want to get the full range horn as I think they look rather bad.

I was joking. I am using beer budget boxes at the mo that just happen to be of that xoverless design. Nothing you'd be interested in. There are a few speaker manufacturers around that work on that principle but most don't. I think the problem these days is that a lot use oem drive units and a xoverless speaker needs carefully engineered, matched drivers that ... well ... cross over smoothly, as far as I understand it.

As you know, another way getting around potentially lossy/interfering xovers is an active speaker, something that does the stepping up in the digital domain. Not useful in your situation considering the money you splashed out on your equipment.
 
Diamond Joe - I sacrificed my car to buy the Chapters if that makes you feel any better?

The Chapter amps are great but also show what a bargain the ATC scm19's are , working with them perfectly giving one of the most honest and transparent sounds ive heard.

Thaiman - They sure are monsters those ASR amp's. Serious power all the way into even 1ohm loads.
 
MattSPL:
Diamond Joe - I sacrificed my car to buy the Chapters if that makes you feel any better?

Wow, that's what I call dedication to your hobby.
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That's got me thinking... if I sell my car, buy a 50cc moped, I should have enough cash for a ... errr, minor upgarde, darn, don't think I'll do that then.

And Thaiman, I'm sure we'd all love to see some piccies of your exotic kit, please please please, if it's not too much trouble sir, I've Googled everything you've listed in your sig. - truly mind blowing stuff, jealousy doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about it.
 
Thaiman:
DM, I would like to hear your thought on "no crossover" design speakers, I have found few brands that I might give them a go although I wouldn't want to get the full range horn as I think they look rather bad.

Have you considered Aspara Acoustics The HL6 could be to your liking.
 
shooter69:Thaiman:

DM, I would like to hear your thought on "no crossover" design speakers, I have found few brands that I might give them a go although I wouldn't want to get the full range horn as I think they look rather bad.

Have you considered Aspara Acoustics The HL6 could be to your liking.

Thank you, I never heard of them, the techie stuff read quite good. 6 inches wouldn't do it for me I afraid. I will do some more diging though, thx again
 
These might interest you?

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This is the text about them:

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No UK dealer for AudioMachina (yet!), thank you though.

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