chebby said:
the record spot said:
Rather like Cyrus' issues with its SE CD players, I find it amazing this kind of thing isn't picked up in extended usage tests pre-release. This item costs at full price about £600, but I do get the impression that quality control's becoming something of an afterthought to some extent in the rush to get products on the market. Disappointing to read given what is otherwise an apparently excellent product.
A lot of assumptions there. How do you know Marantz QC is an 'afterthought'?
I never claimed that it was directly, it might be of course, but if you read the sentence and base your comments accurately, you'd see I was referring to QC/QA issues on a wider scale, of which this is possibly a notable example from another major industry player. In that light, it's fair comment.
chebby said:
How do you know it was 'rushed' to market?
I don't, wider context again which you failed to register in your reading of my post.
EDIT: But I'd be surprised if Marantz don't work to a release schedule to get products to market by a given time. If product development doesn't share some of the issues found in application development (my own field to some extent), I'll eat my hat. I doubt, conequently, that Marantz are any different in this regard.
chebby said:
How do you know it wasn't tested pre-release? How do you know the unit itself is responsible for all (or any) of the problems reported so far? Wireless or network products are 'dropped' into a wealth of differing home network 'environments' with users who may (or may not) read the instructions, may (or may not) download the latest firmware before using it, and may (or may not) have sufficient (or reliable bandwidth) for things like internet radio.
A failure to switch off when using the well established DAB radio system is which part of this?
And yet again, your rush to get your "irate owner's defence" to screen shows up your lack of reading my post before jumping in with both feet. Of course it was tested pre-release, but if some owners are reporting problems with the unit that are consistent across each case, then it's not a massive stretch to assume it lies round the unit or the DAB network. Given DAB's widely used, it suggests a possible issue with the unit. To put it another way, it's no more of a stretch of the imagination for me to reach my conlusions as it is for you to offer yours.
chebby said:
Some people consult hifi forums before dreaming of calling their dealer and/or Marantz technical support first. People could be using a plethora of different firewall products affecting the functioning of AirPlay.
The issue was with DAB, so are you saying DAB connectivity is only enabled via ethernet in this unit? What people choose to do in the event of a problem is their issue, further.
chebby said:
(And it's full RRP is £509 not £600. It typically sells for £450 or less.)
£91 out, so sue me. Whatever. The principle remains the same.
chebby said:
What this has to do with Cyrus I have no idea.
I think you're being deliberately oblique here; there are clear references between both cases if QA testing turns out to be a factor in the problem. Or lack of it and if there is indeed a problem. Sorry you can't see that possibility might exist, but that's not my problem either.
chebby said:
I suspect (like
your post the other day) you are trying to 'stir' things a bit. (Along with the exaggerated price.)
Rather like many of your other assumptions in your post, that's wrong too.
Why would I "stir" things a bit? Enlighten me please? Do tell, etc. You haven't wasted any time finding my query on the THD on the unit (which I stand by as a valid and fair comment), yet not exactly jumped too high to find the other positive ones I've made.
You're coming across as if it's not on for anyone to pass a critical comment on this item that you just so happen to own having bought it recently. Delighted you enjoy it, had it been equipped with hi-res/HD audio capability, I'd have bought it too. It doesn't, much like any other two channel product, so I didn't.
Lighten up and spare me the mini-slanders into the bargain thanks.