thats what ill have on sat after i pick up the rx6s[😀], there is no way i can upgrade the amp and speakers for at least a few months , does anyone have any views on whether they will be able to power the rx6s ? in the short term ...ta..
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Yes, it'll drive them okay, they're pretty sensitive at 90db, so the amp's 50w will be fine. They're capable of much better amps driving them though, as you have alluded to.
thanks rs , my dealer said the same , so its reassuring that you agree .. do you have any reccomendations for future amp , cdp upgrades ? around the £400 each price point , ill defo consider dan1979s duo of the nad c355 and c545 , as he demoed an awful lot of gear before deciding on the same setup .. also , would it be necessary to upgrade the marantz if i got a suitable amp ? i do like it , but dont honestly know its capabilities .. ta..
daveh75:
Cant help thinking your just upgrading for upgradings sake max...
You haven't had your BR5s 5 mins (bet they're not even run in fully
), now your upgrading to RX6s and writing off your current NAD before you've even heard it with the RX's.
theres a method to the madness
, my dealer has a pair of ex demo rx6s which he will give me in exchange for the br5s and a very reasonable amount of money , if i wait , that option wont be there , ill have to privately sell the br5s , probably losing a few hundred euros , and then maybe have to pay full whack for a pair of rx6s
, the br5s are brilliant , and i totally understand your take on my changing them so soon , but i LOVE the look of those meaty rx6s , and i know i wont even think of upgrading them for a very long time , so im striking while the iron is hot....
i have no desire to upgrade the amp and cdp , like i said , unless i have to , both pp and dan have said that in their opinions i will need a stronger amp , hence my requireing answers.suggestions , but if i like the sound the three of them make , ill stick with them , im just putting out feelers
Cant help thinking your just upgrading for upgradings sake max...
You haven't had your BR5s 5 mins (bet they're not even run in fully
theres a method to the madness
i have no desire to upgrade the amp and cdp , like i said , unless i have to , both pp and dan have said that in their opinions i will need a stronger amp , hence my requireing answers.suggestions , but if i like the sound the three of them make , ill stick with them , im just putting out feelers
hi fi newbie:Max you could decide to listen to them before buying you know
i just want them bad boys , what can i say ? im smitten
, and they obviously are better , 275mm wide , 950mm high , very highly rated , why bother listening first
, now , time for bed , you know what ill be dreaming of , i have to do 3 days work in one tmw , by 5.30pm i will have earned the moneys for my honeys
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maxflinn:thats what ill have on sat after i pick up the rx6s
, there is no way i can upgrade the amp and speakers for at least a few months , does anyone have any views on whether they will be able to power the rx6s ? in the short term ...ta..
Max, didn't we answer these questions on this?
http://community.whathifi.com/forums/t/435685.aspx
Max, didn't we answer these questions on this?
http://community.whathifi.com/forums/t/435685.aspx
Congrats Max! I've got a real soft spot for those speakers. IMO you simply cannot do better for the money. And if there's a better looking speaker at that price I've not seen it.
And yes, the NAD 326 will be great with those RX6s. Don't underestimate how good it is. Plus the RX6s are not hard to drive. The NAD has plenty of grunt for those. Should sound amazing. Post pictures!
And yes, the NAD 326 will be great with those RX6s. Don't underestimate how good it is. Plus the RX6s are not hard to drive. The NAD has plenty of grunt for those. Should sound amazing. Post pictures!
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Max, I agree that is an opportunity too good to miss. The Silver range is considerably better than the Bronze in my opinion, particularly in terms of clarity, and it makes perfect sense to do it now while you can make a miniumum loss on the BR5s.
Do give the NAD C326BEE a fair chance. It is a powerful little thing with plenty of drive and I've not really found it struggles to drive any speakers. In fact the little competition I've got going between my NAD and my Pioneer A400 isn't turning out to be quite as clear cut as I initially thought - the NAD is THAT good!
As for the CD player, stick with the Marantz. The NAD would be a sideways move IMO and isn't as well built as the Marantz either. I've got one myself and while it is clearly a very good player, I'm not 100% convinced by it, hence the fact I'm using the Rotel at present.
Do give the NAD C326BEE a fair chance. It is a powerful little thing with plenty of drive and I've not really found it struggles to drive any speakers. In fact the little competition I've got going between my NAD and my Pioneer A400 isn't turning out to be quite as clear cut as I initially thought - the NAD is THAT good!
As for the CD player, stick with the Marantz. The NAD would be a sideways move IMO and isn't as well built as the Marantz either. I've got one myself and while it is clearly a very good player, I'm not 100% convinced by it, hence the fact I'm using the Rotel at present.
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maxflinn:thanks rs , my dealer said the same , so its reassuring that you agree .. do you have any reccomendations for future amp , cdp upgrades ? around the £400 each price point , ill defo consider dan1979s duo of the nad c355 and c545 , as he demoed an awful lot of gear before deciding on the same setup .. also , would it be necessary to upgrade the marantz if i got a suitable amp ? i do like it , but dont honestly know its capabilities .. ta..
I have to suggest that in my opinion your Nad is way out of it's league with the RX6s. I would look at the Creek Evo amp as it sounded stunning with my RS6s. The cd player is less of an issue if the reviews of the Marantz are accurate. You will be very pleased with your new speakers but you will in raptures if you could hear it powered by a better amp. For the record, I've heard your Nads with £800 standmounts and I didn't like it at all.
I have to suggest that in my opinion your Nad is way out of it's league with the RX6s. I would look at the Creek Evo amp as it sounded stunning with my RS6s. The cd player is less of an issue if the reviews of the Marantz are accurate. You will be very pleased with your new speakers but you will in raptures if you could hear it powered by a better amp. For the record, I've heard your Nads with £800 standmounts and I didn't like it at all.
plastic penguin:
maxflinn:thats what ill have on sat after i pick up the rx6s
, there is no way i can upgrade the amp and speakers for at least a few months , does anyone have any views on whether they will be able to power the rx6s ? in the short term ...ta..
Max, didn't we answer these questions on this?
http://community.whathifi.com/forums/t/435685.aspx
yes i know pp , i probably could have used that one , but it was about speakers , this is about compatability
maxflinn:thats what ill have on sat after i pick up the rx6s
Max, didn't we answer these questions on this?
http://community.whathifi.com/forums/t/435685.aspx
yes i know pp , i probably could have used that one , but it was about speakers , this is about compatability
cheers mathew / jaxwired , its good to see a few people dont think ive gone totally crazy
, the deal is very good , i love those speakers , and im not going to pass up this opportunity
, ive rediscovered my love of music these last few weeks , having been more interested in the picture quality of my tv
, lets remember were not talking mega money here guys to get , real , quality speakers that i will get endless pleasure from , ive spent my few shillings on far worse things in the past
by the way , ill give the nad and marantz plenty of time , at least a few months to see how they do
now , my bricks are due , time to go to work
by the way , ill give the nad and marantz plenty of time , at least a few months to see how they do
now , my bricks are due , time to go to work
maxflinn:thanks rs , my dealer said the same , so its reassuring that you agree .. do you have any reccomendations for future amp , cdp upgrades ? around the £400 each price point , ill defo consider dan1979s duo of the nad c355 and c545 , as he demoed an awful lot of gear before deciding on the same setup .. also , would it be necessary to upgrade the marantz if i got a suitable amp ? i do like it , but dont honestly know its capabilities .. ta..
Around £400, I'd look at amps on ex-dem, dealer used offers with warranties...the NAD stuff would be one option. I'm a big fan of Sansui's older gear, but you need to find a good one in likewise condition. There's a couple on Ebay right now, but it's a risk. Check out Emporium Hi Fi's Ebay shop. He has some very fine gear there, no warranty, but you can try at home for a week thanks to Distance Selling Regs and return. Maybe worth a look.
Around £400, I'd look at amps on ex-dem, dealer used offers with warranties...the NAD stuff would be one option. I'm a big fan of Sansui's older gear, but you need to find a good one in likewise condition. There's a couple on Ebay right now, but it's a risk. Check out Emporium Hi Fi's Ebay shop. He has some very fine gear there, no warranty, but you can try at home for a week thanks to Distance Selling Regs and return. Maybe worth a look.
Sorry but here we go again!
RUBBISH...
The NAD C326BEE ISNT way out of its league with the M/A RX6's; it'll drive them damn well and you wouldnt notice a difference between that amp the NAD C355BEE
Believe me; I demo'd them both A LOT!
The RX6's will do very well with your amp Max so sit back and enjoy; it's a cracking system you've got there now.
The only thing you may want to change in the future is cabling but just get used to your system currently and see how it goes
RUBBISH...
The NAD C326BEE ISNT way out of its league with the M/A RX6's; it'll drive them damn well and you wouldnt notice a difference between that amp the NAD C355BEE
Believe me; I demo'd them both A LOT!
The RX6's will do very well with your amp Max so sit back and enjoy; it's a cracking system you've got there now.
The only thing you may want to change in the future is cabling but just get used to your system currently and see how it goes
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d_a_n1979:Sorry but here we go again!
RUBBISH...
The NAD C326BEE ISNT way out of its league with the M/A RX6's; it'll drive them damn well and you wouldnt notice a difference between that amp the NAD C355BEE
Believe me; I demo'd them both A LOT!
The RX6's will do very well with your amp Max so sit back and enjoy; it's a cracking system you've got there now.
The only thing you may want to change in the future is cabling but just get used to your system currently and see how it goes
Well that's my opinion Dan. When I was at WHF towers for the BQ a few months ago, I listened to the C326BEE and it's cd brother with some ATC SCM 11 speakers. It was very disappointing. Before the ATC speakers, they were paired up with the Dali Lektor 2s and it sounded very budget but the ATC speakers didn't add a great deal to the mix. I've just read the WHF review on line and the mag says,
"Against: Will get found out if you try partnering it with higher-end kit". And: "As we said in its First Test in April 2009, the NAD struggles more than some rivals when partnered with more expensive kit. But if you keep your partnering speakers below the £500 mark you'll find this amp to be nigh-on faultless".
RUBBISH...
The NAD C326BEE ISNT way out of its league with the M/A RX6's; it'll drive them damn well and you wouldnt notice a difference between that amp the NAD C355BEE
Believe me; I demo'd them both A LOT!
The RX6's will do very well with your amp Max so sit back and enjoy; it's a cracking system you've got there now.
The only thing you may want to change in the future is cabling but just get used to your system currently and see how it goes
Well that's my opinion Dan. When I was at WHF towers for the BQ a few months ago, I listened to the C326BEE and it's cd brother with some ATC SCM 11 speakers. It was very disappointing. Before the ATC speakers, they were paired up with the Dali Lektor 2s and it sounded very budget but the ATC speakers didn't add a great deal to the mix. I've just read the WHF review on line and the mag says,
"Against: Will get found out if you try partnering it with higher-end kit". And: "As we said in its First Test in April 2009, the NAD struggles more than some rivals when partnered with more expensive kit. But if you keep your partnering speakers below the £500 mark you'll find this amp to be nigh-on faultless".
The question is though that have you heard it with the M/A RX6's?!?!
I agree that the NAD wouldnt sound very well with the ATC's; they really DO require good, solid amplification as they have a habit of embarrassing a lot of electronics IMO
The M/A RX6's are totoaly different speakers and they work very well with the NAD amps and in that; with a majority of CDP's as well whether they're mid-high end midrange players.
Again; IMO the Dali's dont sound very well on the end of NAD gear; the NAD sound, to me, seems a bit too much for the Dali's but put them on the end of the Marantz gear and they sound very good indeed
I agree that the NAD wouldnt sound very well with the ATC's; they really DO require good, solid amplification as they have a habit of embarrassing a lot of electronics IMO
The M/A RX6's are totoaly different speakers and they work very well with the NAD amps and in that; with a majority of CDP's as well whether they're mid-high end midrange players.
Again; IMO the Dali's dont sound very well on the end of NAD gear; the NAD sound, to me, seems a bit too much for the Dali's but put them on the end of the Marantz gear and they sound very good indeed
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d_a_n1979:The question is though that have you heard it with the M/A RX6's?!?!
I agree that the NAD wouldnt sound very well with the ATC's; they really DO require good, solid amplification as they have a habit of embarrassing a lot of electronics IMO
The M/A RX6's are totoaly different speakers and they work very well with the NAD amps and in that; with a majority of CDP's as well whether they're mid-high end midrange players.
Again; IMO the Dali's dont sound very well on the end of NAD gear; the NAD sound, to me, seems a bit too much for the Dali's but put them on the end of the Marantz gear and they sound very good indeed
No I haven't to be honest and I understand what you are saying - your description of the ATC and Dali speakers is spot on. Do you not think that you would get more from the RX6s though with better amplification?
I agree that the NAD wouldnt sound very well with the ATC's; they really DO require good, solid amplification as they have a habit of embarrassing a lot of electronics IMO
The M/A RX6's are totoaly different speakers and they work very well with the NAD amps and in that; with a majority of CDP's as well whether they're mid-high end midrange players.
Again; IMO the Dali's dont sound very well on the end of NAD gear; the NAD sound, to me, seems a bit too much for the Dali's but put them on the end of the Marantz gear and they sound very good indeed
No I haven't to be honest and I understand what you are saying - your description of the ATC and Dali speakers is spot on. Do you not think that you would get more from the RX6s though with better amplification?
In all honest Gerrard no...
It was a surprise to me as I would have never driven my old RS6's with the NAD C326BEE mainly due to their slightly forward soundstage
Now that M/A have tweaked the RX6's and calmed that brightness down (mainly the treble etc...) they do sound really good and I was, in all honest, flabberghasted at how good they sounded with the C326BEE but I will admit that with the C355BEE theyre was just that bit more grunt and you also feel more confident at turning the volume up to 'house rattling' levels
With the right CDP (i.e. the Marantz 6003, NAD C545BEE or the Rega Apollo); the RX6's and C326BEE amp is a superb combo
I think for max if he were to upgrade in the future then IMO the common sense option would be the Rega Apollo and then maybe an amp upgrade but you'd have to look around the Roksan Kandy K2 region and above... The NAD C355BEE amp is very good indeed but it'd be too much of a sideways step
It was a surprise to me as I would have never driven my old RS6's with the NAD C326BEE mainly due to their slightly forward soundstage
Now that M/A have tweaked the RX6's and calmed that brightness down (mainly the treble etc...) they do sound really good and I was, in all honest, flabberghasted at how good they sounded with the C326BEE but I will admit that with the C355BEE theyre was just that bit more grunt and you also feel more confident at turning the volume up to 'house rattling' levels
With the right CDP (i.e. the Marantz 6003, NAD C545BEE or the Rega Apollo); the RX6's and C326BEE amp is a superb combo
I think for max if he were to upgrade in the future then IMO the common sense option would be the Rega Apollo and then maybe an amp upgrade but you'd have to look around the Roksan Kandy K2 region and above... The NAD C355BEE amp is very good indeed but it'd be too much of a sideways step
hi guys , dan , its great to hear that most people think ill be fine with what ive got with the rx6s , im really looking forward to saturday now
, i will probably upgrade the nad , but im not going to worry about that for a long while , im going to buy a few new cds , and stick some beers in the fridge , and just enjoy ALL my new kit
(now if only them damm plasterers were out of my way id be busy earning the money for my speakers)
(now if only them damm plasterers were out of my way id be busy earning the money for my speakers)
Leave the NAD alone and just enjoy it
As I said really the next upgrade IMO would have to be the CDP...
The NAD will hold it's own foe a good while...!
Get some pics up at the weekend
As I said really the next upgrade IMO would have to be the CDP...
The NAD will hold it's own foe a good while...!
Get some pics up at the weekend
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d_a_n1979:Sorry but here we go again! RUBBISH... The NAD C326BEE ISNT way out of its league with the M/A RX6's; it'll drive them damn well and you wouldnt notice a difference between that amp the NAD C355BEE Believe me; I demo'd them both A LOT! The RX6's will do very well with your amp Max so sit back and enjoy; it's a cracking system you've got there now.
The only thing you may want to change in the future is cabling but just get used to your system currently and see how it goes
Err, dan. In Max's other thread you said it wouldn't be worthwhile upgrading to the RX6....
I agree with gerrard, the Nad will struggle to sound significantly better with the RX's, but a dem is essential to confirm whether it's worthwhile. Hate to see a grown man cry...
Max, with your gear I'd say no...
"The C326BEE is a good amp but it's just not enough to get the best out of the RX6's as PP said."
Err, dan. In Max's other thread you said it wouldn't be worthwhile upgrading to the RX6....
I agree with gerrard, the Nad will struggle to sound significantly better with the RX's, but a dem is essential to confirm whether it's worthwhile. Hate to see a grown man cry...
Max, with your gear I'd say no...
"The C326BEE is a good amp but it's just not enough to get the best out of the RX6's as PP said."
In a sense that it's an upgrade too soon... The RX6's do have a good sound advantage but not necessilary worthy of an upgrade but it's always the owners choice!
The RX6's will do just fine with the C326BEE...!
The RX6's will do just fine with the C326BEE...!
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I still reckon with the 326, Max will have a bigger sound advantage by keeping the BR5 and upgrading the amp and CDP.
I have a box of Kleenex waiting to wing its way across the Irish Sea.
I have a box of Kleenex waiting to wing its way across the Irish Sea.
I think you're wrong PP and Max will see that as well.
The NAD will drive the RX6's just as well as the BR5's. The RX6's will need a solid 200hours running in though before they're at their best!
The NAD will drive the RX6's just as well as the BR5's. The RX6's will need a solid 200hours running in though before they're at their best!
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