list of amps with tone control operation from handset

[lpv]

I've got marantz PM6004 now and like it. However, the BIG drawback of its design is lack of tone control operation from handset. I do listen Spotify quite heavy as well as my own itunes library and quite often mix of music from different decades and styles... and that means for me in practical terms that I have to get up from my sofa to manipulate with bass.. Imagine you have to get up to change channel on your tely..

All sorts of McIntosh, Accuphase, Luxman, Marantz have tone controls but seems non of them allow user operate this function from remote control..

The only ones I know are: Rotel RA-11, RA-12.. any other ?

I've asked in another thread regarding AVI ADM 9's if you can control subwoofer from handset, but sadly no... strange times

 

[npoguy]

Parasound P3

 

[npoguy]

Sorry about the double post--must have been very excited about tone controls!

 

[MakkaPakka]

Arcam A85 does so other Arcams probably do too.

 

[MajorFubar]

Tone controls what are they 😛

🙂

 

[lpv]

Parasound P3

Thank you.

 

[matt49]

Parasound P3

Thank you.

Is this built into Devialet or will it be? I'd have thought so. Has anyone demoed the new models yet?

Matt

 

[lpv]

http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/P3Manual.pdf

from parasound P3 manual: " remote control handset - tone on/ off but not actual tone adjustment"

so, no... it doesnt have tone control adjustable from remote control.

so what you do people with too much or not enough bass in the recording when you dont have tone control at all?

 

[Phileas]

http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/P3Manual.pdf

from parasound P3 manual: " remote control handset - tone on/ off but not actual tone adjustment"

so, no... it doesnt have tone control adjustable from remote control.

so what you do people with too much or not enough bass in the recording when you dont have tone control at all?

Are you using iTunes? If so you can apply EQ using that.

 

[chebby]

http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/P3Manual.pdf

from parasound P3 manual: " remote control handset - tone on/ off but not actual tone adjustment"

so, no... it doesnt have tone control adjustable from remote control.

so what you do people with too much or not enough bass in the recording when you dont have tone control at all?

Are you using iTunes? If so you can apply EQ using that.

From a remote handset?

 

[lpv]

I'm using itunes and I'm aware of the eq.. but cant apply itunes eq to spotify.. I dont need much settings anyway.. I only need bass control. If you use spotify try play New Look - Numbers ( too much bass) and then Shapeshifters - Incredible ( not enough bass). Bad production? Stop listening then music you like? if you don't have tone control? I doubt £10000 Naim or whatever set up would help here.

 

[lpv]

http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/P3Manual.pdf

from parasound P3 manual: " remote control handset - tone on/ off but not actual tone adjustment"

so, no... it doesnt have tone control adjustable from remote control.

so what you do people with too much or not enough bass in the recording when you dont have tone control at all?

Are you using iTunes? If so you can apply EQ using that.

From a remote handset?

🙂 well spotted

 

[steve_1979]

I don't like the analog tone controls that you get on most amplifiers because whenever you use them they also alter the phase slightly which degrades the sound quality.

Digital graphic equalizers that adjust the tone before the audio signal gets to the DAC and amplifier have better sound quality because they can change the tone without changing the phase.

 

[Phileas]

I'm using itunes and I'm aware of the eq.. but cant apply itunes eq to spotify.. I dont need much settings anyway.. I only need bass control. If you use spotify try play New Look - Numbers ( too much bass) and then Shapeshifters - Incredible ( not enough bass). Bad production? Stop listening then music you like? if you don't have tone control? I doubt £10000 Naim or whatever set up would help here.

Ignoring the remote handset for a moment and being silly, you could use Airfoil to send Spotify to an ATV and use the EQ feature in Airfoil.

 

[lpv]

There should be system wide EQ build into OSX and remote control iphone app.

 

[lpv]

question to chebby - have you got tone control in remote handset on your marantz? btw - is that D class amp?

 

[MajorFubar]

so what you do people with too much or not enough bass in the recording when you dont have tone control at all?

Strangely enough I don't find it much of a problem. I thought I would, but I don't. I was never a great user of them in any case I guess. When I did have an amp with tone controls, the Bass control always seemed to be centred at too high a frequency anyway and just made the sound muddy and boomy instead of adding the weight I was after, so I generally I still ended up leaving it flat.

 

[MajorFubar]

There should be system wide EQ build into OSX and remote control iphone app.

No thanks unless you can absolutely and 100% bypass it easily. Most of us are looking for ways to ensure our data reaches our DACs absolutely unprocessed, i.e. bit perfect. I don't want something else cluttering-up the data-chain.

 

[lpv]

so what you do people with too much or not enough bass in the recording when you dont have tone control at all?

I don't find it much of a problem. When I did have an amp with tone controls, the Bass control always seemed to adjust too high a frequency anyway, so I usually still ended up leaving it flat.

so I really must have bad combination speakers/ amp because when set to flat sound is flat indeed... same was (or even worse) when I had Rotel RA-11 connected to Q300.

 

[MajorFubar]

so I really must have bad combination speakers/ amp because when set to flat sound is flat indeed... same was (or even worse) when I had Rotel RA-11 connected to Q300.

It could be that, or it could be your speaker placement, your room acoustics, your seating position, or a mixture of everything. It's not 'bad' to want tone controls, or to use them, but yes, if you generally find you're regularly using them to try to compensate for a deficiency in the sound, then you should maybe look to try to get the sound sorted rather than adding digital or analogue EQ to 'fix' it. 🙂

 

[Covenanter]

I've got marantz PM6004 now and like it. However, the BIG drawback of its design is lack of tone control operation from handset. I do listen Spotify quite heavy as well as my own itunes library and quite often mix of music from different decades and styles... and that means for me in practical terms that I have to get up from my sofa to manipulate with bass.. Imagine you have to get up to change channel on your tely..

All sorts of McIntosh, Accuphase, Luxman, Marantz have tone controls but seems non of them allow user operate this function from remote control..

The only ones I know are: Rotel RA-11, RA-12.. any other ?

I've asked in another thread regarding AVI ADM 9's if you can control subwoofer from handset, but sadly no... strange times

Leave it on direct input and forget the tone controls. Why distort the signal?

Chris

PS I have a PM6004 and have never touched the tone controls!

 

[lpv]

I've got marantz PM6004 now and like it. However, the BIG drawback of its design is lack of tone control operation from handset. I do listen Spotify quite heavy as well as my own itunes library and quite often mix of music from different decades and styles... and that means for me in practical terms that I have to get up from my sofa to manipulate with bass.. Imagine you have to get up to change channel on your tely..

All sorts of McIntosh, Accuphase, Luxman, Marantz have tone controls but seems non of them allow user operate this function from remote control..

The only ones I know are: Rotel RA-11, RA-12.. any other ?

I've asked in another thread regarding AVI ADM 9's if you can control subwoofer from handset, but sadly no... strange times

Leave it on direct input and forget the tone controls. Why distort the signal?

Chris

PS I have a PM6004 and have never touched the tone controls!

what speakers you have, if I may ask?

 

[lpv]

so I really must have bad combination speakers/ amp because when set to flat sound is flat indeed... same was (or even worse) when I had Rotel RA-11 connected to Q300.

It could be that, or it could be your speaker placement, your room acoustics, your seating position, or a mixture of everything. It's not 'bad' to want tone controls, or to use them, but yes, if you generally find you're regularly using them to try to compensate for a deficiency in the sound, then you should maybe look to try to get the sound sorted rather than adding digital or analogue EQ to 'fix' it. 🙂

so my headphones must be bad as well 🙂 I don't believe that any speakers or headphones can repair differences in recordings, while tone controls can and are consequently removed from amps/ preamps and if there are those controls left you can't adjust them from your handset.

McIntosh have 5 band equalizers in some amps with £8000 price tag and still no adjustments allowed while you on your sofa..hahaha. how silly is that!

 

[steve_1979]

Leave it on direct input and forget the tone controls. Why distort the signal?

Maybe he's happy with the sound of his speakers for most music but wants to alter the tone when playing certain songs which don't quite sound right.

I personally hardly ever use a graphic equalizer because most music sound fine as it is on my system. But when I listen to Cypress Hill it sounds better with the treble reduced a bit and when I listen to rave music it sounds better with the bass increased a bit.

 

[lpv]

Leave it on direct input and forget the tone controls. Why distort the signal?

Maybe he's happy with the sound of his speakers for most music but wants to alter the tone when playing certain songs which don't quite sound right.

I personally hardly ever use a graphic equalizer because most music sound fine as it is on my system. But when I listen to Cypress Hill it sounds better with the treble reduced a bit and when I listen to rave music it sounds better with the bass increased a bit.

+1 !!!

That's what I need.

Seems like manufacturers removed this feature to send us to believing that we should endlessly upgrade and upgrade again. Maybe. I don't know.

So as far as I understand there are no amps with tone adjustment from handset? :clap: