KEF R series review, when...........??

fayeanddavid

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Are there any immediate plans to review the new R Series from KEF.

Particularly interested in the floorstanders especially the R500 and R700

Any news??
 

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I was about to ask exactly the same question until I saw this post. Though I'm guessing this post may sit better in H-Fi rather than Home Cinema to get the appropriate responses.

So, WHFSV, any plans to review these speakers in the near future?

Many thanks.
 

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mafrost said:
I was about to ask exactly the same question until I saw this post. Though I'm guessing this post may sit better in H-Fi rather than Home Cinema to get the appropriate responses.

So, WHFSV, any plans to review these speakers in the near future?

Many thanks.

Yep, we'll wait and see.

Just read a review in AV Forums of the Q700 AV set up from KEF, which cuts straight across WHF view of the Q700 so not sure if there is an appetite to go there again.

Having said that WHF Awards did make the Q300 Product of the Year, so all sorts of mixed signals

C'mon WHF let's do the R series floor standers and av set up!!
 

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I know the R series has been requested and should be inbound soon, assuming KEF will supply, but not in the office today so will need to check with the team on Monday which ones we're getting and when.

And no 'mixed signals". We just tell it as it is.
 

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fayeanddavid said:
C'mon WHF let's do the R series floor standers and av set up!!

FCS, how many times does it need to be said, WHF only review things IF the manufacturer send them review samples? They will sometimes spend their own money to buy an item but generally that doesn't run to items that cost thousands of pounds.

I'd like to see a review as well but if KEF don't front up the items it isn't going to happen.
 

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And what is wrong with the question from an interest point of view?

I'm sure WHF and others have read heard the plaudits rave over these (yes) and would be in WHF adn every ones interest to see what all the fuss is about, hence the question.

FCS may well be your stance, I'm just asking a question which kinda has been answered by Andy and then negated by yourself

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fayeanddavid said:
And what is wrong with the question from an interest point of view?

Nothing, but the answer is the same every single time this question gets asked (most recently the Onkyo 8050 amp but there are dozens of examples), if your favourite widget hasn't been reviewed it's almost always because a review sample hasn't been sent and I find it hard to believe that anyone who spends any time on this forum doesn't know that already but instead attempts to paint it as WHF "refusing" to review an item for some spurious reason. I just don't get this requirement to try to find a conspiracy when there isn't one. It's quite irritating, hence my response.
 

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The_Lhc said:
fayeanddavid said:
And what is wrong with the question from an interest point of view?

Nothing, but the answer is the same every single time this question gets asked (most recently the Onkyo 8050 amp but there are dozens of examples), if your favourite widget hasn't been reviewed it's almost always because a review sample hasn't been sent and I find it hard to believe that anyone who spends any time on this forum doesn't know that already but instead attempts to paint it as WHF "refusing" to review an item for some spurious reason. I just don't get this requirement to try to find a conspiracy when there isn't one. It's quite irritating, hence my response.

Not my intent at all, and nor did I imply any issue of "refusing", just want to know when we could expect a review.

As stated I'm sure it is as much in the interests of WHF to be able to report as it is to press/ask/be offered/receive hardware for reviewing.

No hidden agenda, no besmirching, no conspiracy theory, no politics, no angst, just a question.

That's all
 

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fayeanddavid said:
The_Lhc said:
fayeanddavid said:
And what is wrong with the question from an interest point of view?

Nothing, but the answer is the same every single time this question gets asked (most recently the Onkyo 8050 amp but there are dozens of examples), if your favourite widget hasn't been reviewed it's almost always because a review sample hasn't been sent and I find it hard to believe that anyone who spends any time on this forum doesn't know that already but instead attempts to paint it as WHF "refusing" to review an item for some spurious reason. I just don't get this requirement to try to find a conspiracy when there isn't one. It's quite irritating, hence my response.

Not my intent at all, and nor did I imply any issue of "refusing", just want to know when we could expect a review.

Just read a review in other forums of the Q700 AV set up from KEF, which cuts straight across WHF view of the Q700 so not sure if there is an appetite to go there again.

What's that if it's not at least a suggestion of reluctance on WHF's part? Then you followed it up with a "C'mon WHF" suggesting that they have any say in the matter, when they don't.
 

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The_Lhc said:
fayeanddavid said:
The_Lhc said:
fayeanddavid said:
And what is wrong with the question from an interest point of view?

Nothing, but the answer is the same every single time this question gets asked (most recently the Onkyo 8050 amp but there are dozens of examples), if your favourite widget hasn't been reviewed it's almost always because a review sample hasn't been sent and I find it hard to believe that anyone who spends any time on this forum doesn't know that already but instead attempts to paint it as WHF "refusing" to review an item for some spurious reason. I just don't get this requirement to try to find a conspiracy when there isn't one. It's quite irritating, hence my response.

Not my intent at all, and nor did I imply any issue of "refusing", just want to know when we could expect a review.

Just read a review in other forums of the Q700 AV set up from KEF, which cuts straight across WHF view of the Q700 so not sure if there is an appetite to go there again.

What's that if it's not at least a suggestion of reluctance on WHF's part? Then you followed it up with a "C'mon WHF" suggesting that they have any say in the matter, when they don't.

That was an observation of two different write ups from two different sources, hardly controverisal even with my note, as for the C'mon WHF, is it worth arguing, debating, mooting, who knows, bigger things out there, but I'm sure that those in WHF Towers don't just sit back and wait for the nice kind vendors to submit their wares as they think appropriate.

Enough methinks
 

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fayeanddavid said:
but I'm sure that those in WHF Towers don't just sit back and wait for the nice kind vendors to submit their wares as they think appropriate.

Beyond a simple request for a review item that's exactly what they'll do, what do you expect, that they mount an armed raid if a manufacturer chooses not to supply such an item (which is what KEF have apparently chosen to do in this instance)?
 

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The_Lhc said:
fayeanddavid said:
but I'm sure that those in WHF Towers don't just sit back and wait for the nice kind vendors to submit their wares as they think appropriate.

Beyond a simple request for a review item that's exactly what they'll do, what do you expect, that they mount an armed raid if a manufacturer chooses not to supply such an item (which is what KEF have apparently chosen to do in this instance)?

Why on earth would you assume this to be the case ? Andy says above "I know the R series has been requested and should be inbound soon"
 

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Jacko said:
The_Lhc said:
fayeanddavid said:
but I'm sure that those in WHF Towers don't just sit back and wait for the nice kind vendors to submit their wares as they think appropriate.

Beyond a simple request for a review item that's exactly what they'll do, what do you expect, that they mount an armed raid if a manufacturer chooses not to supply such an item (which is what KEF have apparently chosen to do in this instance)?

Why on earth would you assume this to be the case ? Andy says above "I know the R series has been requested and should be inbound soon"

Lovely bit of selective editing there, let's try the rest of it:

"I know the R series has been requested and should be inbound soon, assuming KEF will supply"

Nothing definitive in that statement at all. Also I've assumed that to be the case because, as I've already said before, that's the case in 99% of times when something hasn't been reviewed and specifically in this case because KEF have also not supplied the Q500 or Q900 or (apparently) supplied an 5.1 setup based on the Q series either (to my memory, unless it's in the current issue and not on the website).
 

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No matter what, how, what the debate maybe, we can rest assured that the winner of the "let's aggressively argue a point of discussion and insist on the last word" award will invariably The_Lhc.

Consistent if nothing else FCS!!!
 

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fayeanddavid said:
No matter what, how, what the debate maybe, we can rest assured that the winner of the "let's aggressively argue a point of discussion and insist on the last word" award will invariably The_Lhc.

Damn right. But it's not aggression, it's frustration that nobody else seems to remember these things that have been repeated over and over again.
 

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Andy Clough said:
I know the R series has been requested and should be inbound soon, assuming KEF will supply, but not in the office today so will need to check with the team on Monday which ones we're getting and when.

And no 'mixed signals". We just tell it as it is.
Andy - any update on this ? Thanks.
 

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In Germany the Kef R 900 and R 700 have been tested in three different magazines ( stereoplay, audio, stereo ). They all got excellent comments, especially for the price. The R 900 is certainly on a similar level as the Naim Ovator S 400 which costs even a bit more. The KEF R 700 seems to be on a same level as a Sonus Faber Liuto, a fantastic speaker.
 

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the small R 100 for € 800 a pair seem to be quite interesting too if you have only a small room.

It is amazing what is possible nowadays for so little bit of money.

Regards
 

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