i need to stop being so sceptical!

[Craig M.]

took my speaker cable into my local hifi shop to have them shortened and re-terminated. got them to make me some jumpers out of the off cuts to replace the plates between hf and lf speaker connections. i only had them done because i like the look of jumper cables, i mean, you cant expect changing the plates for 6 inch of wire to do anything. well i'll be.... very definite small change in tonality, sound is slightly bassier now.

 

[MattSPL]

Great news Craig
Yes, the jumper bars are only cheap brass alloy links to get the job done.
You can't beat a good piece of copper wire in place of them.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I found an improvement when I did this on my MA RS1s some years ago. Anyway, we all know it can't make a difference...

 

[Messiah]

Ah but how do you know this is not down to the shortened, re-terminated cable??

 

[Frank Harvey]

Because apparently only stupid lengths like 20 miles make a difference - less than 10 metres makes no difference whatsoever - like amplifiers......

 

[Anonymous]

David, all amps sound the same. Come on, even Peter Walker knew that...

...sprints away, cowering

 

[Craig M.]

i bet you're right, i'll go give my lugs a good clean, that should sort it out.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Yup, cables make no difference, amps all sound the same, as do CD players - we'll just sell speakers then!

 

[Anonymous]

Cleaning and tightening the connections might make a difference.

Moving your speakers slightly during the switch might make a difference.

Your expectations and eagerness to detect changes might make a difference.

 

[shooter]

MattSPL:Great news Craig
Yes, the jumper bars are only cheap brass alloy links to get the job done.
You can't beat a good piece of copper wire in place of them.

I totally agree. Solid OFC is arguably the best cable to use and better still it's cheap as chips from e-bay.

 

[Anonymous]

FrankHarveyHiFi:
Yup, cables make no difference, amps all sound the same, as do CD players - we'll just sell speakers then!

I don't think there's any argument that cd players and amps make a difference and a huge difference obviously. I don't really see this being disputed at all, anywhere, on forums etc. The cable issue is being disputed all the time though and if you read internet forums, you'll know the most knowledgeable posters all agree that cables make no difference at all. I'm talking about the guys that really know their hi-fi stuff too and don't have a vested interest, and/or aren't easily fooled.

 

[Anonymous]

Doesnt hurt to be sceptical...if nothing changes then nothing lost but if things change for the better thats a bonus.

 

[Anonymous]

Ollie.:FrankHarveyHiFi:
Yup, cables make no difference, amps all sound the same, as do CD players - we'll just sell speakers then!

I don't think there's any argument that cd players and amps make a difference and a huge difference obviously. I don't really see this being disputed at all, anywhere, on forums etc. The cable issue is being disputed all the time though and if you read internet forums, you'll know the most knowledgeable posters all agree that cables make no difference at all. I'm talking about the guys that really know their hi-fi stuff too and don't have a vested interest, and/or aren't easily fooled.

Ive changed a few cables recently, speaker cables and mains cables, and have noticed a difference in all of them, functioning wise.

Its the materials that are used that will make the difference, you could not say that a 16core copper speaker cable will sound the same as a 16 core silver cable, as they are two totally different types of cable, with different working functions.

Mains is the same, materials, size, sheilding and insulation all help.Its silver vs copper most of the time, with the special final finishing tweaks that make a good one or not

 

[Anonymous]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_wire

 

[chebby]

Is this going to be the official Easter WHF speaker cable debate?

 

[shooter]

chebby:Is this going to be the official Easter WHF speaker cable debate?

It looks like its going that way but it's early day's yet. Where's Joelsim when you need him.

 

[jaxwired]

Oh great, now your system sounds even better? That's just not fair...

Hmmm...I've got a bit too much speaker cable myself. Did you shorten the cable for appearance sake or as a SQ tweak?

 

[Alec]

i can safely say that unless an amp is at least 10 meters long you will hear no difference.

joelsim is still trying to work out how his ears alone told him that alac files discard 60% of the original data. So he will be gone for some time.

 

[idc]

al7478:

i can safely say that unless an amp is at least 10 meters long you will hear no difference.

A 10m long amp would be difficult to shorten and re-teriminate. Maybe I should do a piece on how to shorten speaker cables, reterminate and make jumper leads.

 

[shooter]

al7478:
i can safely say that unless an amp is at least 10 meters long you will hear no difference.

Now thats an amp!!!

 

[Anonymous]

shooter69:al7478:
i can safely say that unless an amp is at least 10 meters long you will hear no difference.

Now thats an amp!!!

i want one!, to annoy the enemy.....

 

[DIB]

If the difference in audio quality is tangible and the cost difference between a bit of brass and a bit of copper negliable, how come the speaker manufacturers still only supply the bare essential brass links then?

.

 

[shooter]

Because there cheaper to produce than solid OFC.

 

[Anonymous]

FrankHarveyHiFi:

Yup, cables make no difference, amps all sound the same, as do CD players - we'll just sell speakers then!

you are starting to sound like AJ

 

[Anonymous]

DIB:
If the difference in audio quality is tangible and the cost difference between a bit of brass and a bit of copper negliable, how come the speaker manufacturers still only supply the bare essential brass links then?

.

It's a conspiracy to make us buy more.

I encase my speaker cable in hose pipe to stop it getting squashed and damaging the flow of music.