Help connecting to Onkyo TX-SR605 without Sat/Cab box

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I have recently purchased a TX-SR605 and Sony V3000 TV. To connect these I am having to run a 5M hdmi cable across the room. I have connected the HDMI cable to the HDMI OUT on the reciever. And put the ariel cable into the FM connection on the AV reciver also.

The problem is when I do this I get no sound or picture

Here is the thing, was I wrong in thinking I could connect via one cable in this way, or will I have to go buy a freeview box that I dont need and connect it to the HDMI IN? or run another 5M HDMI cable across the room from the tele to the HDMI IN on the reciever. I hope im doing something wrong.!!!
 

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unfortunately that TV does not have a digi out only two RCA stereo jacks. so it is either stereo sound from the TV to amp and then use the processing to get pseudo 5.1 from the speaker set up. Or box it all up and go back to the store and start again.

Edit opps yes it does have a digi optical out.
 

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Assuming you don't have any other source components connected to the receiver's HDMI inputs, you don't need the HDMI cable from receiver to TV.

As nads has said, your TV aerial cable should go straight to the TV - the tuner in the receiver is purely for FM/AM radio.

To get sound via the receiver from the TV's internal Freeview tuner, connect the telly's digital audio output to a digital input on the receiver. For this you'll need an optical digital cable - Profigold does one, the PGD565, which you can find online for under £25, or you can find various other ones online for as little as £6.
 

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You'll get surround from a DVD via the HDMI. Connect your DVD to Onkyo (I used HDMI but if non HD and you don't have this, component should be OK as well) then your Onkyo to the tv via HDMI.

However, as you pointed out, you'll only get stereo from the TV via RCA.

TV is mostly stereo anyway except for films which are usually Dolby Pro Logic. However, with the advent of digital and specifically HD broadcasts, some may be transmitted as Dolby Digital. So it looks like you might have consider changing your tv for one with more output options if you want more than just stereo from tv broadcasts.

PS Andrew I think you missed his last post, probably a cross posting, unfortunately he doesn't have any digital tv outputs.
 

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[quote user="nads"]unfortunately that TV does not have a digi out[/quote]

Are you sure, nads? I thought the V3000 series had optical digital out.

If not, then yes the OP will have to use an analogue connection, but this shouldn't be any hardship - the best you're going to get via optical is stereo, too, so it's no great loss.
 

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[quote user="Andrew Everard"]

If not, then yes the OP will have to use an analogue connection, but this shouldn't be any hardship - the best you're going to get via optical is stereo, too, so it's no great loss.

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Sorry to keep questioning you, but are you sure Andrew? I seem to have Dolby Pro Logic on films from Optical out on mine.
 

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[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
[quote user="nads"]unfortunately that TV does not have a digi out[/quote]

Are you sure, nads? I thought the V3000 series had optical digital out.

If not, then yes the OP will have to use an analogue connection, but this shouldn't be any hardship - the best you're going to get via optical is stereo, too, so it's no great loss.
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Andrew, see edit above, according to sony UK the 40" does.
 

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Settled then.

One last thing Nads, if you do get an optical cable, don't make the same mistake as me and forget to take the fibre protectors off!!

I got the QED cable and never having had an optical cable struggled for ages trying to get it into the port and then panicked when the little lens on the end of the cable split!! Luckily I pulled at it whilst trying to see the damage and it came off - it was just a clear protective sleeve!!! Many thanks to QED for the removal instructions on the card!!!! (sarcasm). Many thanks to god for the luck I had in not damaging the Onkyo port whilst trying to force a protected cable in!
 

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[quote user="Alsone"]Sorry to keep questioning you, but are you sure Andrew? I seem to have Dolby Pro Logic on films from Optical out on mine.[/quote]

No, you're just getting stereo, but the receiver is processing it using Pro-Logic to create the surround effect. Some movies may have Dolby Surround encoded into their stereo soundtracks, but the rest of the time your receiver is faking it.
 

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Andrew just been back to the Swedish sony webby and there is no mention of any optical digi out! Hence my first comment. I know things are different out here but i would not have thought it would have been that different!
 
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hi thanks for the advise everyone. just looked at the back of telly and it does have an optical out. unfortornatly my tv areial is on the wall behind the TX-SR605 and the tv the otherside of the room. maybe I can get a flat internal arieal that will fit to the wall behind the telly that you wont see.

If I use the optical cable i will only get stereo sound from the tele, I was hoping to get surround for movies. I may now consider buying the sony RDR-HXD970. then i can attach everything behind the 605. Im trying to avoid long runs of cable under the carpet and running up the wall to the TV.

Changing the subject, I was just playing with the automatic setup for the speakers with the mic and it seems to only work if you have a 7.1 system, as soon as it see you have no side rear speaker it detects error and tell you to retry.

Anyway thanks again everyone.
 

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I really wouldn't go the flat aerial route - you'll probably get fairly weak signal, and things could be horrible.

The recorder idea is much better, but you'll still need an aerial connection to the TV if you ever want to watch it without the rest of the system on.

On the subject of the automatic set-up, if you're running a 5.1-channel set-up, make sure the rear speakers are connected to the surround left and right outputs, and not the surround back left and right. Then the automatic set-up should run fine.
 
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Hi thanks for that advise on the auto set-up it worked a treat.

I have an internal digital ariel connected to the tv at the moment and the signal seems ok. Im not to worried about picture quality on tv broadcasts anyhow. Im am more interested in good sound for the music channels and watching films. I may take another look at linking it with digital optical cable as its a lot cheaper than the hard drive recorder.

I just need to hide 3 speaker cables a HDMI and an optical cable under the carpet lol.

Thanks again for the advice.
 

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