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Romulus

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Sonos is for people who want convenience and practicality a house full of music, but are not so fussed about the quality of sound.
 

jonboywalton75

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Seen comparison reviews, never heard sonos but I DO recommend Audio Addon speakers for price/sound quality
I bought an Audio Addon C5a
£175 of audio goodness
 

gowiththeflow

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Our neighbours have a single Sonos One as their only audio system, other than the sound bars, fitted underneath the huge TV's in both the longe and kitchen/orangery (posh name for a massive single story extension).
Despite the very large rooms and floor area, they think the Sonos One is all they need and the fact that it's easily portable, makes it brilliant in their eyes.

They can't see the point in the large PMC speakers, plus all the HiFi gear I previously had in our lounge, nor the B&W Formation Duo set-up that now resides in that room.

p.s. We have Sonos in the kitchen, dining room, my workshop and my study. It's great.
 

AJM1981

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For hifi, we are not the general public and vice versa. Audio people care for example about room conditions, a degree of silence in the room, midrange and balance, the general public doesn't care at all and sees it as a purely functional thing.

For a reason most consumer systems are designed with background noise in mind. The idea that when you cook, talk to visitors, having playing children around, hoover or anything that there is still clear sound from a system. This way it also presents better in the store the product is sold where the midrange is often troubled by people speaking around or cars passing by. They demo very well in these condition, but of course sound thin when comparing them classic hifi. It is a different world of a market. .

If I would have a crowded house in wbich I barely had time to really listen I would have chosen sonos or anything similar for tbe background.
 
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Edbostan

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Sonos is for people who want convenience and practicality a house full of music, but are not so fussed about the quality of sound.
I have a Sonos One and Play 1 and find the sound quality balanced and good for their size. I stream music from my NAS or Amazon Music. To route the NAS and Amazon Music through my hifi I have a Sonos Connect. For me that is the perfect solution.
 

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I remember when Sonos launched at the Bristol show many years ago with their clever control app and wireless connect. Sadly they’ve not really done much development since….it’s only this year that they have finally relented to pressure and allowed above CD quality. And that meant a whole new system which rendered old models obsolete! Let’s remember their advice to ‘brick’ old devices as they didn’t conform to the new system 😖
They are well made little speakers but unless you pair them they are not even stereo…certainly not Hi-Fi.
Still the majority of their customers like them because most have not heard anything better and mags like What HiFi drool over them……”great soundstage” ”balanced sound” etc…… really? 🙄
 
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Edbostan

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I remember when Sonos launched at the Bristol show many years ago with their clever control app and wireless connect. Sadly they’ve not really done much development since….it’s only this year that they have finally relented to pressure and allowed above CD quality. And that meant a whole new system which rendered old models obsolete! Let’s remember their advice to ‘brick’ old devices as they didn’t conform to the new system 😖
They are well made little speakers but unless you pair them they are not even stereo…certainly not Hi-Fi.
Still the majority of their customers like them because most have not heard anything better and mags like What HiFi drool over them……”great soundstage” ”balanced sound” etc…… really? 🙄
I was worried about the obsolete factor regarding what Sonos call legacy products. I have three legacy products: a Bridge, Connect and Play 1 with the latest Sonos One. I have the Play One and Sonos One in our bedroom either side of the bed and alas as you say they can't be paired into a stereo pair but we listen at low volume so no issue. The Alexa facility is used though. Sonos has backed down over the app and all products still work with the S1 app. I don't consider them hifi but they provide background listening with an Amazon Echo providing Alexa controls in the lounge
 
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I remember when Sonos launched at the Bristol show many years ago with their clever control app and wireless connect. Sadly they’ve not really done much development since….it’s only this year that they have finally relented to pressure and allowed above CD quality. And that meant a whole new system which rendered old models obsolete! Let’s remember their advice to ‘brick’ old devices as they didn’t conform to the new system 😖
They are well made little speakers but unless you pair them they are not even stereo…certainly not Hi-Fi.
Still the majority of their customers like them because most have not heard anything better and mags like What HiFi drool over them……”great soundstage” ”balanced sound” etc…… really? 🙄
You can't have it both ways. On one side, you're criticising Sonos for "not doing much development" to get SQ above CD quality. The reason is to ensure people don't have to be left with obsolete Sonos devices. To support hi res, hardware change was needed which then wouldn't work in multiroom setup. They had to eventually relent to hi res support to keep up with competition. And so they had to make few devices obsolete.

My Sonos happily sits alongside my Monitor Audio speakers. I wouldn't say it's inferior.
 

Edbostan

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Sonos is primarily for people that only listen to music as background noise and dislike the 'clutter' of a proper hifi stereo set up. Hugely overpriced IMO.
My Sonos One is voice activated by Alexa so I can request it to play music from my Amazon Music account or listen to radio via Tunein. It is horses for courses. Via the app I can stream music from my NAS.
 

Romulus

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Also Sonos can integrate to many forms of delivery of music as the above posts confirm which will suit many people lifestyles. When no comparisons are made with different music systems the listener will not know any better or different, maybe ignorance is bliss and just relax and enjoy the system...
 
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manicm

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I keep reading about 'obsolescence'. If one is so worried about obsolescence don't buy streaming products. Fact of life you deal with or ignore. It's very simple. And also exaggerated. Yes some products will be poorly developed from the start - KEF LS50W mk 1 looking at you - but one must always make a reasonably informed decision - which often only takes 5 minutes of thinking.

Oh, but Linn offer upgrades. Yes. Can you afford a Linn streamer? Then by all means do so. But a single Linn upgrade costs the same as an entire premium Marantz component, or NAD or whatever - at a minimum of 2K I would guess.

So keep things in perspective.
 
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I can understand the appeal. They are good VFM but I don't agree with a previous poster, where he suggested Sonos aren't for the purist.

My own yardstick for budget set-ups was my old Arcam A65+, Monitor Audio RS6 and Arcam CD73. IMHO the A65+ is still one of the best pound-for-pound integrateds... incredibly underrated amp in its time. That all came to similar new price as the Sonos kit I heard. The Sonos probably edged out the Arcams with clarity (possibly). But it didn't set my music world alight, and I wouldn't class myself as a purist.
 

Edbostan

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I can understand the appeal. They are good VFM but I don't agree with a previous poster, where he suggested Sonos aren't for the purist.

My own yardstick for budget set-ups was my old Arcam A65+, Monitor Audio RS6 and Arcam CD73. IMHO the A65+ is still one of the best pound-for-pound integrateds... incredibly underrated amp in its time. That all came to similar new price as the Sonos kit I heard. The Sonos probably edged out the Arcams with clarity (possibly). But it didn't set my music world alight, and I wouldn't class myself as a purist.
In my lounge is my hifi and Amazon Echo. If lazy I ask Alexa to play a certain artist, track or radio channel. It is not hifi but pleasant listening. Sometimes that is all I require to tap my feet
 

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