Comparison naim nait xs3 rega Elicit mk5

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nopiano

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I have no experience here, but that sounds implausible to my cynic's ears.
Naim amps used to blow up regularly if not connected as recommended by them. It’s a long established problem as Naim used never fit (protecting) Zobel networks, meaning they rely on the cable to load the output safely.
 

FraD

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I have just seen and read what hi fi's review of the Rega Elicit mk5 just made, I would like to have a comparative judgment between the Rega Elicit mk5 and the Naim nait Xs3 reviewed at the time from those who performed the listening tests.
Thank you
 

daytona600

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Naim amplifiers are designed only to work with Naim loudspeaker cable and using alternatives may degrade the performance or even damage the amplifier.

What about the internal cable inside the Speaker
 

painter24

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Naim amplifiers are designed only to work with Naim loudspeaker cable and using alternatives may degrade the performance or even damage the amplifier.
This most definitely was the case on older series amps - Olive, Chrome Bumper etc, but modern lines are no longer this prohibitive - such as the 5si, XS2 & 3, SupertNaits.

Many Naim users of modern series amps use Tellurium Q, Atlas as an alternative just as an example. As someone else mentioned, Witch Hat make alternative speaker cables for Naim amps albeit designed by ex-Naim engineers, within the parameters of Naim specifications.

Advice I received when I bought my 5si last year was that using alternative cables was no longer a concern to worry about.
 
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skinnypuppy71

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.....And keep away from silver type speaker cables with Naim, I couldn't stand the sound of my Nait xs with some qed silver anniversary, if you need something a bit less expensive than the naca 5, tellurium etc, I'd recommend the linn k20 (aka naca a4), I doubt you'll find it new, so eBay is your friend here. I actually have a couple of 3-4 metre lengths of it kicking around, oh and mogami quad core 2972 is pretty good also.
 

FraD

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.....And keep away from silver type speaker cables with Naim, I couldn't stand the sound of my Nait xs with some qed silver anniversary, if you need something a bit less expensive than the naca 5, tellurium etc, I'd recommend the linn k20 (aka naca a4), I doubt you'll find it new, so eBay is your friend here. I actually have a couple of 3-4 metre lengths of it kicking around, oh and mogami quad core 2972 is pretty good also.
I took your advice and got Linn k20 cables, they seem to be fine.
In the meantime I continued to listen to the naim nait xs 3 for a while, it seems to me that it sounds good if it weren't for the bass in some passages it loses a bit of definition.
In the meantime, I am waiting for the new Rega Eliit mk5 to arrive from my supplier to make a direct comparison with my ears.
In the meantime, there is someone else who can give me an opinion on the two amps naim and Rega.
 
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norcriss

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I took your advice and got Linn k20 cables, they seem to be fine.
In the meantime I continued to listen to the naim nait xs 3 for a while, it seems to me that it sounds good if it weren't for the bass in some passages it loses a bit of definition.
In the meantime, I am waiting for the new Rega Eliit mk5 to arrive from my supplier to make a direct comparison with my ears.
In the meantime, there is someone else who can give me an opinion on the two amps naim and Rega.
Did u got the chance of listening to Rega? I’m also in the same boat as you and I don’t know which one to choose between Rega and Naim.
 

FraD

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Did u got the chance of listening to Rega? I’m also in the same boat as you and I don’t know which one to choose between Rega and Naim.
I am in contact with my supplier, when the rega arrives he warns me and I can try it, afterwards I will surely let you know how the comparison went.
 

FraD

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Naim amplifiers are designed only to work with Naim loudspeaker cable and using alternatives may degrade the performance or even damage the amplifier.

What about the internal cable inside the Speaker
Rereading our comments on this forum I focused on the problem of cables.
I have no experience in electronics and little knowledge of electrical engineering, reminiscent of when I was studying, more than 40 years ago.
I would like to have more technical clarifications to understand and justify the problem of cables for Naim amps, degrade performance or ruin the unit ???
Keeping in mind that however on the other side of the cable is the loudspeaker with its speakers with their impedance with their load.
A good amp manufacturer must offer products that sound better than the competition all other things being equal.
Equality of conditions means the same speakers, the same sources and of course the same cables, knowing that the response of the amplifier can vary from speaker to speaker.
It is true that these elements of the music chain can affect the quality of the sound, but this is true for any amplifier.
The comparison must be made on equal terms.
How is it that an amp can explode or get damaged by cables.
If so, for me Naim is disqualified.
 

FraD

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Well, I can’t think of another SS amp that’s equally vulnerable, but they maintained it delivered better sound iirc. On balance though, not blowing up sits higher in most customers requirements!
Rereading our comments on this forum I focused on the problem of cables.
I have no experience in electronics and little knowledge of electrical engineering, reminiscent of when I was studying, more than 40 years ago.
I would like to have more technical clarifications to understand and justify the problem of cables for Naim amps, degrade performance or ruin the unit ???
Keeping in mind that however on the other side of the cable is the loudspeaker with its speakers with their impedance with their load.
A good amp manufacturer must offer products that sound better than the competition all other things being equal.
Equality of conditions means the same speakers, the same sources and of course the same cables, knowing that the response of the amplifier can vary from speaker to speaker.
It is true that these elements of the music chain can affect the quality of the sound, but this is true for any amplifier.
The comparison must be made on equal terms.
How is it that an amp can explode or get damaged by cables.
If so, for me Naim is disqualified.
 

nopiano

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Rereading our comments on this forum I focused on the problem of cables.
I have no experience in electronics and little knowledge of electrical engineering, reminiscent of when I was studying, more than 40 years ago.
I would like to have more technical clarifications to understand and justify the problem of cables for Naim amps, degrade performance or ruin the unit ???
Keeping in mind that however on the other side of the cable is the loudspeaker with its speakers with their impedance with their load.
A good amp manufacturer must offer products that sound better than the competition all other things being equal.
Equality of conditions means the same speakers, the same sources and of course the same cables, knowing that the response of the amplifier can vary from speaker to speaker.
It is true that these elements of the music chain can affect the quality of the sound, but this is true for any amplifier.
The comparison must be made on equal terms.
How is it that an amp can explode or get damaged by cables.
If so, for me Naim is disqualified.
I posted an extract from the current Naim amplifier manual in #24 above. Essentially, some of their designs need the speaker cable load to stabilise the amplifier. Look up zobel networks or look in Naim’s own forum and you might find more. All I’d say is use their suggested cable and you’ll be fine. Or you might agree with me that it’s an unnecessary flaw.
 
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GeoffreyW

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I've been using 2 x 8m (approx) runs of NACA4 since the 80s, starting with a Nytech ca202amp with Heybrook HB 1s, then a succession of Naim amps, with no problems at all. Currently using a Uniti Star.
 

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