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Bristol Sound and Vision show 2014

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bigboss said:
So it's on 21st-23rd February this year. I will most likely be attending, to see the discounts on offer. Anyone else going?
I usually go on the Friday with a work colleague but I came in this morning to be told that he and the other two permanent staff are being taken to Toulouse for a company team-building exercise so I have to be in the office for the three days they're out, which is the 19th, 20th and 21st of February, so it's not looking good (I won't go over the weekend, too far away from home and too busy, Friday's bad enough, I understand is much busier).
 

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Upgrading both amplifier and speakers?
Yes, that's the plan. Blu ray player as well possibly. So far, I'm looking at Kef R series, with R500 floorstanders as fronts. AV receiver likely to be a Yamaha RX-A3030 or Pioneer SC-LX87. Will look at Monitor Audio and B&W offerings as well.
 

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The_Lhc said:
bigboss said:
So it's on 21st-23rd February this year. I will most likely be attending, to see the discounts on offer. Anyone else going?
I usually go on the Friday with a work colleague but I came in this morning to be told that he and the other two permanent staff are being taken to Toulouse for a company team-building exercise so I have to be in the office for the three days they're out, which is the 19th, 20th and 21st of February, so it's not looking good (I won't go over the weekend, too far away from home and too busy, Friday's bad enough, I understand is much busier).
I will be in London for a meeting on 20th, so thinking of attending the show on 21st before heading back.
 

mr malarky

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bigboss said:
mr malarky said:
Upgrading both amplifier and speakers?
Yes, that's the plan. Blu ray player as well possibly. So far, I'm looking at Kef R series, with R500 floorstanders as fronts. AV receiver likely to be a Yamaha RX-A3030 or Pioneer SC-LX87. Will look at Monitor Audio and B&W offerings as well.
Nice, am a tad jealous - wish I could justify a full round of upgrades! :)

Provided my work diary stays free I'm up for a look around on the 21st, so let me know nearer the time if your definitely going down that day?
 

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hope to be able to hear some more B&W speakers this year. was dissapointed they were only there to show off their a5/a7 dock last year with a pair of 802 diamonds in the stand purely for decoration!
 

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I would like to go. I hope to see Chord Electronics new headphone amp. Is this show the biggest in the UK? I have not made it before and wondered just how big and busy the Saturday will be.
 

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bigboss said:
mr malarky said:
Upgrading both amplifier and speakers?
Yes, that's the plan. Blu ray player as well possibly. So far, I'm looking at Kef R series, with R500 floorstanders as fronts. AV receiver likely to be a Yamaha RX-A3030 or Pioneer SC-LX87. Will look at Monitor Audio and B&W offerings as well.
Apologies for thread drift. BB, have you considered Oppo 105 directly to actives?
 

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I'll very likely be going. Hope to spend some time with Neat, Monitor Audio, Naim, Cyrus, Roksan, KEF, PMC, Spendor and Guru (I'm exhausted just thinking about it). Although based on my last experience a couple of years ago, each room tended to be playing one thing throughout the day (whatever they were promoting the most that year, usually their latest release) with some very dubious and evidently hastily-prepared playlists!

However, it can draw you to things you wouldn't otherwise have considered; I remember being particularly impressed with Neat Iotas and Spendors last time, and it can repell you from things you were previously seriously considering (Audiolab - torture, Grado headphones - nasty despite all the rave reviews; but I completely accept some people have bought these products and have been very satisfied with them - just not me...ever!!), so even if you don't get everything you would have hoped out of the show, it's still a worthwhile process.
 

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AlmaataKZ said:
bigboss said:
mr malarky said:
Upgrading both amplifier and speakers?
Yes, that's the plan. Blu ray player as well possibly. So far, I'm looking at Kef R series, with R500 floorstanders as fronts. AV receiver likely to be a Yamaha RX-A3030 or Pioneer SC-LX87. Will look at Monitor Audio and B&W offerings as well.
Apologies for thread drift. BB, have you considered Oppo 105 directly to actives?
No I haven't. Are there any reasonably priced floor stander actives?
 

AlmaataKZ

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Not many but there are. Adam Audio Artist 6 for example. They have a matching centre channel as well. Rears can be Artist 6, 5 or 3.

The upcoming Epos could be reasonably priced as well but I do not know if they will make a matching centre.

Dynaoudio Xeo?

Here re some pics of the Adams from Munich HiEnd 2012:





Back on topic:

I may visit this year (will know mid Feb - I have to travel from London). If I do, would you like to meet for a drink/lunch, BB?
 

bigboss

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Hmmm....interesting! So, if I have multiple HDMI sources (Sky HD, Apple TV etc.), how do I connect them?

It'll be great to meet! Let me know. I'm planning for either Friday or Saturday (mostly Saturday).
 

AlmaataKZ

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bigboss said:
Hmmm....interesting! So, if I have multiple HDMI sources (Sky HD, Apple TV etc.), how do I connect them?
Oppo+actives is a minimalist approach. Multiple sources definately = AV receiver. Or AV pre, in case of actives.

bigboss said:
It'll be great to meet! Let me know. I'm planning for either Friday or Saturday (mostly Saturday).
Will do early Feb.
 

AlmaataKZ

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bigboss said:
Hmmm....interesting! So, if I have multiple HDMI sources (Sky HD, Apple TV etc.), how do I connect them?
Oppo+actives is a minimalist approach. Multiple sources definately = AV receiver. Or AV pre, in case of actives.

bigboss said:
It'll be great to meet! Let me know. I'm planning for either Friday or Saturday (mostly Saturday).
Will do early Feb.
 

Lost Angeles

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How do these shows work, do the exhibitors have pre-set times during the day when they are demoing their stuff , say every half hour and you need to pre-book with them to guarantee getting in for a listen or is it come and go as you please. I fancy a trip to Bristol and have never been to one of these before.
 

simonlewis

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If it's the same as the manchester shows manufactures have pre-set times when they demo although you may need a ticket for the pre-set time but some people get a ticket and don't show up, this was a few years ago though.
 

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Lost Angeles said:
How do these shows work, do the exhibitors have pre-set times during the day when they are demoing their stuff , say every half hour and you need to pre-book with them to guarantee getting in for a listen or is it come and go as you please. I fancy a trip to Bristol and have never been to one of these before.
Most rooms in Bristol are usually open, walk-in demos. Others - typically more complex kit - have timed demos you either have to queue for or come back later. There's also a series of interconnecting rooms on the ground floor with open product displays and demos: plenty to play with if you do have to wait for a timed demo.
 

Lost Angeles

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Clare Newsome said:
Lost Angeles said:
How do these shows work, do the exhibitors have pre-set times during the day when they are demoing their stuff , say every half hour and you need to pre-book with them to guarantee getting in for a listen or is it come and go as you please. I fancy a trip to Bristol and have never been to one of these before.
Most rooms in Bristol are usually open, walk-in demos. Others - typically more complex kit - have timed demos you either have to queue for or come back later. There's also a series of interconnecting rooms on the ground floor with open product displays and demos: plenty to play with if you do have to wait for a timed demo.
Thanks Clare, I presume Friday may be the slightly quieter day.
 

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bigboss said:
mr malarky said:
Upgrading both amplifier and speakers?
Yes, that's the plan. Blu ray player as well possibly. So far, I'm looking at Kef R series, with R500 floorstanders as fronts. AV receiver likely to be a Yamaha RX-A3030 or Pioneer SC-LX87. Will look at Monitor Audio and B&W offerings as well.
you're going Big, Boss... ;)

I've upgrade my AV last month, Yamaha RX V775 and i will buy Dynaudio excite X22 central channel next month, just waiting on my dealer stockoff of Dynaudio Excite range. 8)
 

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I'm torn. With no show at all in Manchester this year, I would quite like to go to Bristol but, on the other hand, it is a real trek from Lancashire and I'm wondering whether putting me in a building with so much hi-fi kit is a great idea at present. I'm also concerned about travelling all the way down there to find it is so busy that it is impossible to get to hear anything properly.

I might do something different like go to Scalford later in the year.
 

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Just looking at the brands coming to this years show 2014 Joe, im not happy no Onkyo I see so far . I was looking forward to hearing some demos on a new AV amp as my old TX-SR606 is finally giving in now needing 3D compatabilty.
 

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Anybody know from previous experience, do any of the Exhibitors publish a demo schedule before the show to give punters a clue about what will be showcased when?

When I went before (just the once) my impression after leaving was that I'd spoken to too many reps talking about black, silver or wooden boxes rather than listening to things I wanted. I remember going into the Arcam room hoping to hear their AV receivers, but being disappointed as they seemed to be demonstrating their £2k D33 DAC most of the time, which didn't interest me in the least. Same with Cyrus, Naim and Monitor Audio. There were products within their lineup that I would have liked to listen to, but the opportunities to do so seemed a bit random.

I downloaded the guide beforehand, so I knew which exhibitors were where, but this time if a manufacturer was demonstrating something I was interested in, I'd be keen to know when this was happening, so I wasn't completely the wrong end of the hotel at the time.
 

jonathanRD

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I've never been before, but I have the week off so I am thinking of going on the Friday - no excuse really as I'm only 50 miles away.
 

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Leeps said:
Anybody know from previous experience, do any of the Exhibitors publish a demo schedule before the show to give punters a clue about what will be showcased when?

When I went before (just the once) my impression after leaving was that I'd spoken to too many reps talking about black, silver or wooden boxes rather than listening to things I wanted. I remember going into the Arcam room hoping to hear their AV receivers, but being disappointed as they seemed to be demonstrating their £2k D33 DAC most of the time, which didn't interest me in the least. Same with Cyrus, Naim and Monitor Audio. There were products within their lineup that I would have liked to listen to, but the opportunities to do so seemed a bit random.

I downloaded the guide beforehand, so I knew which exhibitors were where, but this time if a manufacturer was demonstrating something I was interested in, I'd be keen to know when this was happening, so I wasn't completely the wrong end of the hotel at the time.
Any thoughts folks?
 

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Im going on saturday and it's my third time. My14 y/o daughter always come with me and manage to claim a free Pioneer earphones which are crap! The ones you can buy in poundshop even sounds better:wall:
 

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No longer got the company car since redundancy came my way, so this year I'm going to use my bus pass, for the first time, to get into Bristol on Friday for the show. Means I can have :beer: if I want. Maybe not in the Marriott though, hotel prices for :beer: more expensive than many speaker cables.
 

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Leeps said:
Anybody know from previous experience, do any of the Exhibitors publish a demo schedule before the show to give punters a clue about what will be showcased when?

When I went before (just the once) my impression after leaving was that I'd spoken to too many reps talking about black, silver or wooden boxes rather than listening to things I wanted. I remember going into the Arcam room hoping to hear their AV receivers, but being disappointed as they seemed to be demonstrating their £2k D33 DAC most of the time, which didn't interest me in the least. Same with Cyrus, Naim and Monitor Audio. There were products within their lineup that I would have liked to listen to, but the opportunities to do so seemed a bit random.

I downloaded the guide beforehand, so I knew which exhibitors were where, but this time if a manufacturer was demonstrating something I was interested in, I'd be keen to know when this was happening, so I wasn't completely the wrong end of the hotel at the time.
Most manufacturers will use the show to demonstrate their new products. The problem with demonstrating numerous models in their ranges is that they'd ideally need a room for each product, which is very expensive. So it is a safe bet that whichever manufacturer you want to see has a new product out, that is what they'll be demonstrating. Occasionally they may switch between two or three products during the course of the day if they only have one room - I doubt there'd be a schedule though as they'll play that sort of thing by ear.
 

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David@FrankHarvey said:
Leeps said:
Anybody know from previous experience, do any of the Exhibitors publish a demo schedule before the show to give punters a clue about what will be showcased when?

When I went before (just the once) my impression after leaving was that I'd spoken to too many reps talking about black, silver or wooden boxes rather than listening to things I wanted. I remember going into the Arcam room hoping to hear their AV receivers, but being disappointed as they seemed to be demonstrating their £2k D33 DAC most of the time, which didn't interest me in the least. Same with Cyrus, Naim and Monitor Audio. There were products within their lineup that I would have liked to listen to, but the opportunities to do so seemed a bit random.

I downloaded the guide beforehand, so I knew which exhibitors were where, but this time if a manufacturer was demonstrating something I was interested in, I'd be keen to know when this was happening, so I wasn't completely the wrong end of the hotel at the time.
Most manufacturers will use the show to demonstrate their new products. The problem with demonstrating numerous models in their ranges is that they'd ideally need a room for each product, which is very expensive. So it is a safe bet that whichever manufacturer you want to see has a new product out, that is what they'll be demonstrating. Occasionally they may switch between two or three products during the course of the day if they only have one room - I doubt there'd be a schedule though as they'll play that sort of thing by ear.
Thanks for the reply David, that's helpful to know, albeit a shame! If for example Naim are demonstrating their "Statement", then I'll be avoiding their demo room; in the current economic climate, what were they thinking? If they were playing one of their 'normal' products (the ones that aren't designed for oil barons), I would have been keen to listen.
 

bigboss

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Well, the usual idea is to showcase the very best or the very latest kit they've made, with the hope that you will be impressed with their quality, and expect that to trickle down to lower ranges. If they show a lower end model, they will lose out on higher end customers. More expensive the product range, higher the profit margin.
 

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Thanks for the reply David, that's helpful to know, albeit a shame! If for example Naim are demonstrating their "Statement", then I'll be avoiding their demo room; in the current economic climate, what were they thinking? If they were playing one of their 'normal' products (the ones that aren't designed for oil barons), I would have been keen to listen.

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Dynaudio will be using Naim Electronics, Focal will be using a Naim streamer and a Supernait and there will be a Nait amp and Uniti range in the Bristol Suite. well, that's what the show guide says.

This didn't come out very well did it!!!
 

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bigboss said:
I will be in London for a meeting on 20th, so thinking of attending the show on 21st before heading back.
Hope to see you there bigboss! Are you still going?
 

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PS: I've been given advance notice of some of the show deals/discounts so will post a story online first thing tomorrow morning with all the details. Some good deals on a couple of our Award winners
 

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andrewmillner said:
I would like to go. I hope to see Chord Electronics new headphone amp. Is this show the biggest in the UK? I have not made it before and wondered just how big and busy the Saturday will be.
It's the biggest specialist hi-fi/AV show, yes, and it usually gets pretty busy on Saturday.
 

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stavvy said:
hope to be able to hear some more B&W speakers this year. was dissapointed they were only there to show off their a5/a7 dock last year with a pair of 802 diamonds in the stand purely for decoration!
Well the new 600 Series will be launched at the show, so they could be well worth hearing.
 

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Lost Angeles said:
Earthquake in Bristol Channel, did Tannoy drop their speakers or Naim their amp?:oops:
Hope the Marriott Hotel is still standing. :pray:
It might have been the switch-on thump from the new Naim amps.
 

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Unfortunately I couldn't make it also due to last minute change in plan. I was very keen to visit Light Harmonic booth to checkout Geek Outs, I contributed to compaign for Geek Out and Geek Pulse and very interested to know how do they compare to likes of HRT and Dragonfly.

If anyone visiting and get the chance to get a demo of Geeks provide some feedback here that would be awesome.

Thanks
 

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Seemed a bit odd today that there was no Marantz / Denon at the show. :? Chatting to Andy from WHF who indicated that they may have given it a miss as they had nothing new to demo. That would make sense, but it would still have been nice to see them there.
 

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I enjoyed my day at the show, and here’s my tenpennerth. WHF stand was good, thanks to the guy who’s got the Epicon 2 speakers at home (didn’t get his name) very helpful. The 2 TVs demo was interesting, queues were better in the afternoon and I preferred the OLED but that may have be because the 4K was larger and doing more upscaling bit of bad luck for me though if most companies are only going to make 4Ks in the future. Good choice of films used.

My music taste must be poor as there was nothing playing anywhere of my taste so it my affect my opinions

The Naim Statement was disappointing, too much noise from the back of the room (aircon or something) you could hear on the quieter pieces, and a rare selection of music played. They talked about how it was designed to be good at all volume levels and then only played at one level, I’m glad I can’t afford it.

Never got to hear the Kef Blades as the door was always shut, the PMC room was always too full so never got to hear those either.

My favourites were Decent Audio with Unico CDE + Pathos amp and Usher speakers, lovely warm sound, The Michell Orbe (I’m biased) Kudos S10s and Proac D30s. I thought the Clearaudio sounded too clinical. The Tannoy WRGR was very good and the Astell & Kern was impressive, that’s about all I can remember at midnight seeing as I was up at 6. I reckon I’ll go again next year.
 

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4K was being upscaled, shame i wonder when we will get a chance to see a genuine 4K demo and media. :pray: I hope it's this year.
 

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4K was being upscaled, shame i wonder when we will get a chance to see a genuine 4K demo and media. :pray: I hope it's this year.
On the direct comparisons on the 3 films the 4K was being upscaled and was a 65" compared to a 55", if both TVs were the same size I doubt whether there would have been much difference, The promotional 4K Sony clip shown was superb.
 

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As ever it's tricky to get hold of genuine 4K material we can use at a public show, but the Sony clip in our demo is the real thing.
 

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Went on the Friday -

I also liked the Unico CDE, Pathos amp with Usher speakers, such a natural flowing sound.

Kef room had the small Eggs, AV system showing the Lorax film - great dynamic sound. Next up was a very expensive turntable (needle £5000), Moon amps system worth many thousands of pounds through the Blades.

Thought the Monitor Audio sound bar was very good, as was the Focal Spirit headphones through Naim.

Proac D30`S very good, followed by the D20`s which perhaps need more listening time.

Kudos speakers, the X2`s in the Audioquest room was impressive.

The new Neat Motive range with Naim I found to be very hard sounding ! Cyrus xp streamer & the Lyric very good.

Got to hear the D7`s & a pair of older speakers in the Spendor room.

The Q Acoustics new floorstanders had greater depth than the excellent standmounts but £1000 asking price ?

The PMC room was packed so went along at the end of the day to hear the excellent twenty .26`s

A good day but got soaked walking back to the train station !!
 

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First timer for me - went on Friday. I was particularly interested in amps & speakers circa £800 - £1000.

Heard the new Q Acoustics Concept 40's, very clear but maybe a bit clinical for my taste. They swapped to a pair of Concept 20's and I expected a bigger difference bewteen the 2 models. Went back at the end of the day with more 'accoustomed ears' and I could tell immediately that the 40's were playing - although not sure I'd pay £1000.

Went to the B&W 600 series demo all being driven by a Rotel RA1570 amp & cd combination. In particular I was impresed by the floorstanding 684's and standmount 685's - I'd be quite happy to own either of them and certainly the 684's will be on my demo list in the future.

Had a quick listen to the Kef Blades - very nice, Neat SX1's - very detailed and 'fast', PMC 21's - again nice detail, and lots of others out of pure interest rather than models I would seriously consider purchasing. Some rooms just played the music too loud, and in one (cant remember which) they were blasting Massive Attack.

Much calmer in the Rega room, they seemed to suggest that a new amp is imminent - one that fits between the Brio and Elicit - which is what I wanted to hear.

The wow factor for me was two-fold. First watching a film clip in 3D with an Epsom projector - amazing!

Secondly, in the Rel room, they had a demo using a 5.3 speaker setup. Each Rel sub was connected to either the front L/R, centre or rear speakers. The speakers I think were Harberth SL5's. The effect was very impressive - immersing you within the film sequences. But, and I'm not sure why, they seemed to play for a minute just the front speakers just in stereo - connected to a Rega Elicit and Saturn. This sounded fantastic - just sounded perfect to my ears. I want them :)
 

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