Bass traps needed

[danrv]

Hi
My hifi is in a 12' x 12' bedroom and the speakers are in corners around 18" from side and back walls.
I think bass traps would help tighten the bass up a little as there's a lot of empty space in the corners behind the speakers.
Any body using GIK Acoustics bass traps? Interested in the these as they look better than the
foam ones.
Any help appreciated.

Roksan Kandy K2 amp / Roksan Kandy K2 CD player / Dali Lektor 2 / Chord Chrimson Plus / Chord Carnival Silverscreen / Atacama Nexus 6 / Target Hifi stand.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Do have a look at my posts. Me base trap man !

 

[mykspence]

I have a couple that I use alongside some home made ones. IMO the bass trap thing is a bit like the mains conditioner thing, some people need them some don't. Your room dimensions aren't ideal so I think it'd be worth you taking advantage of GIK's free advice.

Robin, base is the foot or support for something, bass is the lower notes in music

 

[danrv]

Thanks.

I've heard that square rooms are tricky for acoustics. Not sure what the science is behind it but will get some advice from GIK.

 

[floyd droid]

Robin, base is the foot or support for something, bass is the lower notes in music

Sigh............ Here we go again.

Bass is a type of fish anawl , you forgot that one Mr Smart Bottom. oke:

 

[mykspence]

Sigh............ Here we go again.

Bass is a type of fish anawl , you forgot that one Mr Smart Bottom. oke:

I didn't forget anything thank you, bass is many things, but as this is a hi fi forum I think it's safe to say that it refers to a musical term. I'm not aware that base is ever a musical term in any context? But maybe you know better Mr Smartyarse?

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Bach two base hix.

But hopefully this thread doesnt go pear shaped like many others.

My room has been transformed.

Cheers

 

[floyd droid]

Hey, look how you managed to avoid the auto-edit of naughty words. Good you is .

 

[VoodooDoctor]

I have Gik Acoustics bass traps. They have absolutely transformed the sound in my room. It's well worth using their advice service to work with them to get what you need. Highly recommended.

 

[danrv]

Great! Thanks

 

[sheggs]

Hi,

If its a square room then bass trapping in corners is generally your way forward and also the positioning of your listening spot is really important.

If you are wanting some advice you can fill in our room set up page and go from there

http://www.gikacoustics.com/uk_room_setup.php

 

[RobinKidderminster]

+1 for GIK. Guess its my latest thing but I really think that room treatment is so very important yet ignored by so many inc WHF maybe. I have spent far more money on cables etc yet the improvements even with modest treatment is huge. Like most I am not keen on the 'studio' look for my lounge but modest and discrete units especially in small rooms are magical imo. I repeat ... get some rs60, rubber gloves and an old sheet. Bung it round yr lounge. Then buy some pro units unless yr diy skills allow I guess.

 

[afterworks]

These things are very easy to make if you have the time?

Basstraps: Buy some RS60 1200x600x100mm packs of Rockwool/silk - you get packs of 5 for about £22. Chop each panel into equalateral triangles (the panel dimensions are naturally perfect for this). You'll get 3 triangles per panel. Then stack the triangles, floor to ceiling in each corner of the room. Cover with breathable material.

Generally speaking, DIY room acoustics is cheaper and just as, if not more effective for the money.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Equilateral? Not 4 x 90deg isoscelese? Or 8 in my case.

 

[danrv]

These things are very easy to make if you have the time?

Basstraps: Buy some RS60 1200x600x100mm packs of Rockwool/silk - you get packs of 5 for about £22. Chop each panel into equalateral triangles (the panel dimensions are naturally perfect for this). You'll get 3 triangles per panel. Then stack the triangles, floor to ceiling in each corner of the room. Cover with breathable material.

Generally speaking, DIY room acoustics is cheaper and just as, if not more effective for the money.

Nice idea an might give it a go. Can't figure how to get 3 equalateral triangles from the 1200mm x 600mm panel though.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

You should lok at my posts or take others advice. Those thinking it is voodoo 'like the cable debate' don't understand physics/acoustics. 4 large or 8 smaller triangles of rs60 as an experiment and then get commercial traps if you wish.

 

[danrv]

Thanks.

I've worked out that 8 triangles from the 1200mm x 600mm would would be fine.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Keep us informed

 

[danrv]

The other option would be the foam type.

http://www.advancedacoustics-uk.com/Problem_Solved/Original_Bass_Trap.html

This would be less hassle and would look neat but would give the RS60 Rocksilk a go as long as it doesn't create any dust once installed.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Although no expert I have researched a great deal and it seems foam is less effective for bass. I recon if using foam you may need to cover more area to get the same effect. Cheap.foam is no good. Experiment and find the way forward maybe.

 

[sheggs]

The other option would be the foam type.

http://www.advancedacoustics-uk.com/Problem_Solved/Original_Bass_Trap.html

This would be less hassle and would look neat but would give the RS60 Rocksilk a go as long as it doesn't create any dust once installed.

A lot of people spray glue onto the rock wool and then cover it in fabric this ensures that none of the fibres then become airborn. As for dust once covered in a fabric definately won't create any

 

[danrv]

Ok thanks.

GIK suggest their 244 bass trap for the room corners which would be the most effective I think. Other option is the Tri trap but this is more expensive.

Could have a go at a DIY but I don't think it the covering would look as neat.

 

[danrv]

Have gone for a pair of Advanced Acoustics 3ft foam corner bass traps.They look neat and have cleared up the slight boom I had before.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Room layout determinate but mine made very significant difference. Not just a 'bass boom'. 2 corners or 4?

Cheers

 

[danrv]

Hi

2 corners. The other 2 corners are unsuitable for traps so this is really the bare minimum of acoustic treatment. The bass is still deep but not boomy and the slight muddiness in the lower vocals has gone making them nice and clear.

Not sure whether the traps needs to be secured but at the moment they are just free standing.