I think you would have to go and audition yourself however no reason that Wharfedales should not be suitable for either as you say.Can you suggest which speaker goes fine with Denon and Marantz ?
See many times, in Forums and reviews Wharfedale is fine with Denon and Marantz
Also, does a floorstanding speaker is too much for 12" X 15" living room ?
I too prefer the Stand mounts, for the reason you mentioned above but having children in home, maneuver around, fear for itI think you would have to go and audition yourself however no reason that Wharfedales should not be suitable for either as you say.
You should be able to accommodate a small floorstander in a room that size, but again it will depend on the nature of that floorstander and space you can give it.
Standmounts would give you more choice in my opinion, think Evo 4.1 or 4.2
believe you me many floorstanders are more unstable than a good filled stand and bluetacked speakers combo.I too prefer the Stand mounts, for the reason you mentioned above but having children in home, maneuver around, fear for it
Floor standers, might be a safe for this reason
Hope, the following would be comparable to midrange IA's :Dedicated stereo amplifiers will always be better than budget to midrange AV amps. Just remember that in 90% of mass market AV amps, the amps for each channel are not really discrete. Hence 80% quote power ratings for 2-channel, and mostly never quote power output for all 5 channels.
Then there's all that video circuitry that could affect the sound. Ah, but most amps have a 'direct' mode, but it's still a compromise because the space taken up by the additional amplification and video circuitry could be put to better use for better power supplies, isolation etc.
I would reckon to get comparable stereo quality you're probably looking at AV amps that cost 800 pounds or more.
Sorry, I just saw your post, let me try to explain a bit more.If it's only for your hifi why are you wasting money on superfluous channels / sockets etc, unless they are cheap second-hand kit it doesn't make financial sense.
Why does AVR give you 'a lot of choices ' ? Can you explain?
Of course, if you already own one it can be used in a 2 channel role but I would not consider going out to buy one specifically to do this.
thanks for your feedback !!I used avr’s for years to listen to music. To get a good sound and as others have mentioned you need proper discret amps for each channel, for that you have to spend a lot of money on an avr. Can they play music convincingly? Yeah they can.
From what I can tell, you want a “hifi”with digital capabilities. And your only going to be using 2 channels and maybe a subwoofer?
If it was me I’d look second hand. Especially for avr’s your not going to be taking advantage of the lastest and greatest sound formats ( well unless I’ve missed a post in this thread).
I’d look for some monster high end amps from the last 20 or so years. Thinks like Yamahas z11 for example. It retailed for around 3-4k back in the day and still a stunning preformer today and will give any traditional hifi a run it’s money. You can probably pick it up for around 3-500 now sound wise nothing will beat anything at sort of money these days. In fact you just won’t find performance like it now for under 10k.
You don’t need all the hdmi switching any good tv can do that you just need an optical cable. And off you go.
but as I say maybe I’ve missed something so please ignore me if I have.
I will repeat, in 99% of AV receivers, regardless of cost, those '7 seperate amplifiers' are grossly misleading. If a receiver is rated at 100w/channel, even in a 2000 quid one, you are NOT getting 100w for each channel amplifier. You're probably getting more like 40-50w, if not a bit less. So don't fool yourself.Hi,
An AVR that has 7 channels will have 7 separate amplifiers. The amplifier circuit is not much different to an integrated amplifier.
Same for the DAC IC. The AVR DAC IC is no different to the separate DAC IC. All that does happen is that the DAC IC implemented in an AVR may have an 8 channel DAC IC as opposed to a stereo DAC IC implementation.
Hi,I will repeat, in 99% of AV receivers, regardless of cost, those '7 seperate amplifiers' are grossly misleading. If a receiver is rated at 100w/channel, even in a 2000 quid one, you are NOT getting 100w for each channel amplifier. You're probably getting more like 40-50w, if not a bit less. So don't fool yourself.
If you want true power for each channel you'd buy a multichannel power amp(s), and seperate AV processor.
I'd imagine that your music will sound just fine tbh.Sorry, I just saw your post, let me try to explain a bit more.
Choices: I have a lot of Music DVD and CDs that I still want to watch, so connecting the DVD and the CD player to the AVR will give me the same sound quality since I'm using the same AVR+Speakers.
I also hear a lot via streaming (Spotify) so again the AVR solves that issue.
On the other hand, I don't have LPs.
And I like to watch movies and the sound from the TV is not good. Yes, I could buy a home theater connected to the TV but again the AVR solves that problem.
Does it make sense?
comments are welcome,
It depends - some of us have a foot in both camps. Both ways of dealing with this are compromises - you either run two systems (which in my case means an AV one with cheaper, more 'lifestyle' speakers and a cheaper amp), or compromise on amplification and speakers as far as stereo is concerned*. I guess the choice someone in my position makes tells you a lot about their priorities - I spend more time watching films than listening to music, but most of my budget went on the latter.Just as those people would not understand how the music nuts fork out large sums on integrated or separate power and pre-amps, DACs, cabling and other components to chase the ultimate in stereo reproduction!
Not sure if I follow you. Are you saying that AV fans usually have stereo front speakers which are nowhere near the quality of the speakers of music/ hifi buff?I doubt even the most die-hard AV fan will tell you that the stereo pair in a 5.1 or 7.1 set will hold a candle to a stereo pair with a similar price tag.
Doesn't always turn out that way, as you have all that video componentry as well which may or may not be isolated from analogue audio paths.Hi,
An AV amplifier that has to drive 7 channels, will likely have a power supply equivalent or better than a stereo amplifier.
Such that when the AV amplifier is used as a stereo amplifier, then there is likely no difference to a stereo amplifier.