Andrew Everard said:No, it's emphatically not rubbish, although opinions of its merits will vary. Ridiculous thread.
plastic penguin said:
ID. said:Not really sure I get the point of this thread, but that's never stopped me posting before.
I can understand the sound might not be to some people's liking, but I like it. It gets a little annoying when people seem to have a set anti-Arcam (or any brand) bias and just express it as Arcam is rubbish rather than explaining that they don't like the sound and why.
Some of the QA issues surrounding their home cinema products is a little worrying, and I'd be worried about the damage reliability issues are doing the brand. I get the feeling that development went on so long that it reached a point where due to building costs and delays in entering the market they felt they had to release it anyway. Either way, this is pure conjecture, and maybe it passed all their QA procedures...
ID. said:Sorry PP, I know you are an Arcam fan. I'm a fan even though I haven't owned any since my beloved Alpha 9 amp. My comments were just about some attitudes that pop up on the forum and trying to give my objective opinions on the brand and products.
As for the point of the thread, I wasn't sure whether you were just trying to get some debate and an interesting thread going due to comments about lack of activity, etc. in the thread you referenced, or whether you had become frustrated by a number of anti-Arcam threads or comments
Shanka said:Hi, This is partly out of another thread but thought I would add my contribution . I have an Alpha 5 which I think is fabulous , rich warm sounding especially with vinyl, sounds like I have had a small scotch before I started listening to it if you know what I mean. The first amp I heard that got me into hifi was the A&R A60 if that counts as Arcam and that was the amp I aspired to but could only stretch to Pioneer as a teenager back then. I am currently tracking down an Alpha 9 and glad to see people here being positive about this amp, looking forward to hearing one. I did recently listen to the current A28 and this was not the sound I was looking for and was a little dissappointed but there is no way I would say it was bad, maybe the A38 would have delivered but to me the character was missing compared to my A5. I can not comment on any other Arcam products but from what I see those who have or had them seem to hold them in high regard and I even recommended the brand to a colleague who wanted a good secondhand hifi , you know buy Arcam you won't go too far wrong.
def lugs said:They certainly did not receive a warm review in the latest Bluray super test. The points were warrranted, but I think the tone of the article was biased by the companies poor showing from the earlier test. Identical features on other units were not mentioned but highlighted as a negative on the Arcam.
The 95 and Arcam unit both require a button push to illuminate the display. Yet this was highlighted with the Arcam as minus point.
Still a very enjoyable read.
Big Chris said:Nothing to debate. Sitting here listening to P.T's 'The Incident' Disc 2, it's a categorical 'No' from me.
OK, I own Arcam kit, but I've upgraded to this Arcam kit from cheaper Arcam kit. If I didn't like the cheaper stuff I may well have ruled out Arcam altogether.
I'm not saying I'm an experienced auditioner, but I prefer my Arcams to the other popular brands I've heard (as an Openreach engineer, I'm in peoples homes a lot of the day and when I see some decent gear, talk usually turns to hifi and more often than not, an impromptu demo). Even the 5 figure set-up of Mark Levinson electronics and massive ATCs didn't blow me away to the level you would expect from the amount of outlay.