Details starting to appear re specs etc - overview news story here, plus a blog here that we'll update as we get more detail; LCD info being added shortly....
2012 Panasonic plasmas
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Just wondering does any body know if any of the new panasonics have freesat, no perticular reason just curious. 
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ray:We are getting UK-specific details this afternoon - will ensure the blog is updated later with TV tuner info
Quick answer: Freesat tuners on the two higher-end plasma and LCD models (VT and GT plasmas, WT and DT LCD) as well as Freeview HD tuners. Every other model is Freeview HD
Yes, that's the case.
The blog has now been updated with even more details, including LCD line-up and some early ideas of UK pricing and availability...
The blog has now been updated with even more details, including LCD line-up and some early ideas of UK pricing and availability...
bigboss said:
As i've noted on the blog, it's only via certain browsers/on some platforms. Tested it on an array of devices out in Hamburg and got a mix of results. Deeply odd....
bigboss said:That's an excellent comment to Panasonic!
[Note to Panasonic: don't think that's the screenshot we'd have chosen to use on the press picture above, considering the issues some customers reported with green tinges on their 2011 sets.]
Couldn't quite believe it when we saw it! If we hadn't said it, someone would...
Interesting, incidentally, if you look at that tech specs to see the updates that have been made re phosphors, filters etc - and totally new panel
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If the VT50 performs as claimed, this could be the plasma Kuro owners could consider for an upgrade. It's just the active 3D I'm not keen about although, admittedly, Panasonic's 3D is far more comfortable to watch than Sony or Samsung. LG's passive 3D sets were the most comfortable to watch.
Or maybe go for a projector :?
Or maybe go for a projector :?
No word on UK pricing yet, I'm afraid (we have asked), and if I'm reading Clare's copious (!) coverage correctly the VT50 will only be available in 50, 55 and 65in sizes.
Yep, there is definitely no VT model below 50in. However, the GT range offers much of the same functionality, and is available in smaller sizes - though (as noted in the blog) Panasonic is producing no 46in plasmas this year, in any model range.
And if you hunt around the blogathon further, there are some prices in there - for example, the 65in VT is likely to cost around £4000 at launch, whereas the 65in ST model should come in at around £2500....
And if you hunt around the blogathon further, there are some prices in there - for example, the 65in VT is likely to cost around £4000 at launch, whereas the 65in ST model should come in at around £2500....
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Did Panasonic say if they've been listening to any feedback from consumers?? Are there going to be more green tint/blob, rising brightness etc issues again this year? There are so many people complaining about these things it seems amazing if they'd overlook them. The new drive systems could well solve this but that depends if these issues ever make it back to the engineers, could even be a regional issue due to power supply voltages around the world that might not show up in the factories.
I'm not sure if reviewers get the same sets as the public but I have three Panny plasmas, two G30's in the office and an S30 in the "man-room" at home - all of which exhibit these green tint/blob problems. It's a shame because in other respects they're great screens.
I do wonder if reviewers get the same sets as the public since WHF did pick up on a slight yellow tint on the LG plasma I also have which is far less severe. You can calibrate out all these tints easily enough but the "green blob" issue cannot be removed so easily.
Not wishing to be imflammatory, just wondering how aware they are of these things!
I'm not sure if reviewers get the same sets as the public but I have three Panny plasmas, two G30's in the office and an S30 in the "man-room" at home - all of which exhibit these green tint/blob problems. It's a shame because in other respects they're great screens.
I do wonder if reviewers get the same sets as the public since WHF did pick up on a slight yellow tint on the LG plasma I also have which is far less severe. You can calibrate out all these tints easily enough but the "green blob" issue cannot be removed so easily.
Not wishing to be imflammatory, just wondering how aware they are of these things!
Oh believe me, they get plenty of feedback
It's by keeping pushing that things change - either through fixes or upgrades to designs that could be causing issues. That's the same with any product, not just TVs.
Re review samples. If I were a manufacturer sending products out for review, i'd make sure I'd checked them over first and only send out product I was happy with. I'm sure you do the same with speakers - not sending out a box-fresh pair, for example!
But they're definitely production run - and if there are any doubts the test team look at stock from retail.
It's by keeping pushing that things change - either through fixes or upgrades to designs that could be causing issues. That's the same with any product, not just TVs.
Re review samples. If I were a manufacturer sending products out for review, i'd make sure I'd checked them over first and only send out product I was happy with. I'm sure you do the same with speakers - not sending out a box-fresh pair, for example!
But they're definitely production run - and if there are any doubts the test team look at stock from retail.
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Clare Newsome said:
Of course! There are rare occasions when we send things out due to a last minute request (Such as the Radiance 5.1 featured in the mag a fair few months back) but generally I take a pair from stock (if it's not an early production-ready sample), test all is working ok and run in a little if there's time.
I expect most do the same but I'd hope the sample is always representative of what the public will receive.I must admit the S30 is a bargain, the 42" cost me £400 and arguably has a better pic in my room than the G30, reflections are not an issue as it's a converted garage so the lesser black filter doesn't come into it. The "Normal" mode seems to avoid most of the green tinting which is quite severe in THX mode.
I think if Panasonic can steer clear of any more random issues in 2012 then people will finally be able to move on from the Kuro, fingers crossed!
Boooo
I guess my dream of a cheap 46" vt50 is just that...
Seriously though, I wish Panasonic hadn't ditched the 46. For me it's the perfect compromise between a 50 which is just too big for most rooms, and a 42 which is just that little bit too small.
Maybe I should go search for a soon-to-be-heavily-discounted 46" GT30 - but that flush VT bezel is just too sexy!
I guess my dream of a cheap 46" vt50 is just that...
Seriously though, I wish Panasonic hadn't ditched the 46. For me it's the perfect compromise between a 50 which is just too big for most rooms, and a 42 which is just that little bit too small.
Maybe I should go search for a soon-to-be-heavily-discounted 46" GT30 - but that flush VT bezel is just too sexy!
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Clare,
I know this is probably jumping the gun somewhat but would you have any idea when you may get any of the new range in for review? My local dealer is expecting the first delivery batch in mid to late march so i was just wondering how long after that you might get to review one of the new range.
Many thanks.
I know this is probably jumping the gun somewhat but would you have any idea when you may get any of the new range in for review? My local dealer is expecting the first delivery batch in mid to late march so i was just wondering how long after that you might get to review one of the new range.
Many thanks.
Still working out what's coming in when, but review stock definitely incoming over next couple of weeks. Will ask the test team to update specifics when they have them...
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