Think i've narrowed it down to the celestion a3's cerwin vega xls 215, klipch rf82mk2 or rf83mk1 and if I can demo some RRR-FS100 then i will try them they certainly look good, thanks for these suggestions. I think the xl215's or celestion a3's are looking like my favorites at the moment. This is for hifi listening but I just happen to like it loud...as for the b and w I just don't see them furfilling my needs I have only heard the 685 and it sounded nice but I don't think even the 683 will play loud enough, the bass drivers are smaller and fewer than that which I already have and I seem to have a psychological disorder where I always have to have something bigger and better...(better being relative here with the valdus) The same goes for monitor audio unfortuneately (The rx6 did sound good just didn't have the slam I'm looking for). I will forget about 20hz until I get enough money to build a sub with a lms ultra 5400. I will consider the alpha 10 in the future but i think maybe the arcam sound is not really what I am looking for, so may try a more neutral amp.
As for me not listening to suggestions, this is not true and I have purcased one of them (beringer supercrossover). I am not asking the same question over and over again. I never had the budget for new speakers and now I do I'm not going to waste it on pa gear I won't really get to appreciate and I hate the sound of it. You guys are more gulity of not taking into account information than me, I expressed on multiple occasions that the speakers were sufficient and they are, it was the amp causing the problems. Yet despite this nonsensical advice for pa (some of which wouldn't even deliver the same spl's as the valdus) was contantly trust at me. As for the overexcursion throwing more current at it exacerbated the problem which i knew it would, i have solved the problem with a crossover, thankyou for whoever suggested the item.
As I've previously stated in the basement due to the room acoustics you don't need massive speakers to get massively loud. Due to its size and stone walls I get stronger midbass here from the valdus speakers and lowishbass from my sub (down to 30hz) than you get from most clubs from arrays of 18's, they have to fill a massive space, I don't.
as for pa almost all of it sounds like ####, I have been to many of the best clubs across the globe and very few of them have a sound system I have actually liked. Funktion one is stupidly overrated and perspnally I find them lacking in bass punch, they don't really seem to hit you in the chest and sound a bit flabby (to me anyway), this is different from extension, martin audio I find a bit screechy and as far as I'm aware these are two of the best brands available at any price. I'm not saying pa can't sound good as I've been to some events where the sound was amazing but they are few an far between. Privelidge ibiza is the biggest (by no means best) club in the world and half the time it sounds like the dj is trainwrecking even though he isnt because of the horrific room echoes across the vast space. You could fill that space with 800 series speakers and it would sound like ####.
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